My guess is that they're actually trying to push people TO the combos. They must feel like most people looking for less than 800w will be happy with a 200 or 500 combo.
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Thanks, Chains. Do you know what kind of cable that would be? Do I need both the Pre and Post cables? I don't understand what those are used for.
It’s a standard XLR cable. And you will only need one. If you plug it into the Pre socket, the line output will not be affected by the EQ on the amp, whereas it will be if you plug it into Post.
Many sound guys will prefer a pre-EQ signal, as they can EQ it to taste from the board and avoid having to compensate on the fly if you change the EQ on your amp.
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Read the instructions for my studio40. Weird needing one for an amp.
Basically got the hang of the controls. Now just mix n and matching heads, cabinets and effects.
I seem to gravitate towards the British ones especially the one based on orange. Did like the crush50 i tried out last year. So can sound like it and fender and others now with a knob twist.
Basically got the hang of the controls. Now just mix n and matching heads, cabinets and effects.
I seem to gravitate towards the British ones especially the one based on orange. Did like the crush50 i tried out last year. So can sound like it and fender and others now with a knob twist.
Pre and post has nothing to do with the cables. That is internal to the amp. If you have a v3, the signal to the PA will be post. The cable is actually just a mic cable, XLR female on one end and XLR male on the other. That may not always be true depending on how you are routing your signal. Going through a snake, for example, might change how you hook up. I carry a couple of adapters in my gig bag so I can plug into anything.
True, gigging with FOH support only requires one standard XLR cable. However, with the Stage or Studio amps, that requires a controversial decision whether to use the Pre-EQ or Post-EQ XLR Out. Seems most soundmen prefer the Pre- with no effects or tone adjustments 'cause they want that tone control for themselves. However, many bassists prefer to keep control of the tone they have sought for years, and special song settings they have crafted for hours, and only send the soundman the Post- signal.
Either of those misses a golden opportunity that the Stage and Studio presents to send both Pre- and Post- to FOH, where a smart soundman will use a blend to get good FOH sound with the bassist's musical tone, dynamics and different song settings, with fewer adjustments on the soundman's part. (Yes, the lazy soundman may just ignore the Post- signal in favor of the Pre- signal, but at least give him the chance to do the right thing, or learn.)
Just my 2¢.
If you want the effects use the post out to the FOH. If you want to be super cool there is a setting to setup the XLR outs as Stereo. So you could send both to the house. I would not see any need to mic the amp. If you have not yet set up a set list do it. That way you can put the presets into one nice package instead of fumbling through the presets to find the right one. I only use 3 preset for my gigs so the pedal is perfect for me.
I recently picked up a new Fender Rumble 115 cabinet. The tone then I get out of this 15 in speaker has blown me away. I have been using a TC electronic rs210 cabinet for the last 5 years or more. They provided me with years of joy and great great tone. This new cabinet to me is one of the finest sounding cabinets I've ever heard. Not because it's a very articulate sounding cabinet but it does something to the tone of my bases that is a complete opposite of what does rs210 was giving me. I'm not knocking the rs210 but the 115 it's like a breath of fresh air.
You are the guy I need to talk to. I've always been a 10" guy, but I played a Bassman Neo 115 and was blown away. I felt like I was really playing BASS for the first time. So, now I'm debating between a pair of Rumble 115s or Neo 115s.
I haven't been able to play a Rumble 115 except for the combo version, so I'm not sure how the cab holds up on its own. The Neo was super articulate and clear. You think the Rumble is, too? Have you listened to it from a distance? Does it project okay compared to your 210? What amp are you using with the Rumble?
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I'm trying to wrap my ears around what the new 800 head driving THREE (3) 115 cabs would sound/feel like. Just the thought of it leaves me breathless!
I haven't used a Rumble 1x15, but I do have a pair of the Neo 1x15s. I really like the sound. I drive them with a Bassman 500 (same as a Rumble 500, but with tube pre section). I tried this configuration out while I was still gigging with a 500c + 2x10 cab and decided it is the perfect gigging amp for me.
I don't think that the rumble 115 is very articulate at all. I'm not saying it's muddy or thuddy. It's broader sounding it's also darker. I run a rumble 350 head into the cabinet. I really like the way my G&L l2000 sounds through this combination. The cabinet is pretty lightweight. Lighter than the rs210. It gets pretty loud will though I haven't used it out of the house yet. I have used it in the band context and it works perfectly. I think it sounds awesome 25 feet away. Maybe even a little better than when I'm up close against it. This is agree cab and it's still in discovery mode for me. I'm discovering different sounds of different bases. I like the sound of this cabinet being played with the Rumble 350 head in comparison to mine little MarkII head.
I'm old school. I always preferred 12" minimum for bass. I bought a Kasino* w/2x15"amp that had that 'gut-rumbling' BASS you refer to but later bought a mid 70s blue line SVT/8x10 rig.
. I never felt it had the bottom of the 2x15s. afa rumbles vs NEOs, can't help you there, but my current main amp is the R200c(and a 112 extension on the rare times I need it). We play relatively small venues where even the 200c is 'overkill' and I use my R40. Obviously, if you the oomph need of larger power, then that's what you go for and measure the pros and cons of the lighter weight Rumbles.*the Kasino(made 1970)
still working but heavy
@Eric Jacobson is using a Stage 800, with the option of Post or Pre.
That seems counter-intuitive. IF the FOH provides a male XLR plug, wouldn't you just plug that directly into the amp?
Yeah, I suspected as much. I’m bummed that no stores in the NYC area carry these on premises. I really want to hear if “broad and dark” is going to work for me.
I know they allow that. I don't really consider the Stage 800 or Studio 40 v3s be strict definition, but perhaps I should have denoted that to obviate obfuscation.
DocZ, If you've played the Rumble 200 combo, then you have played the exact same speaker as in the Rumble 115 cab! Just different cab sizes and port tuning. But, if you want to try a different brand head, then IDK.
Well, take a really deep breath!
Then, try to imagine what the new Rumble 800 HD driving FOUR (4) 115 CABS would sound/feel like!!!!
Yeah, man, it's 2 ohm stable! That hasn't happened to a Rumble since the very first all-tube Rumble Custom Shop rig sold back in the 1990s! That's right, the daddy of today's Super Bassman!!
PS: The Rumble Stage 800 is 2.67 Ohm capable; meaning that, in addition to it's internal 210, it can drive up to two (2) external 210s or 115s, or 410s. Uh, huh. Rumbles ain't just your kid's first student amp any more. They are also professional quality and power.
Got mine not too far over the Outerbridge Crossing at Sam Ash. I'm in Staten Island.
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Four??? Oooooo, personal levitation machine!
That does it. I've been shopping for a 500 head before they disappear, but just the thought of standing in front of 4 115s has already got the huevos vibrating!
It's just money, right?
