Fender Rumble Club

[bhendrix]

The idea of one combo for bigger gigs, haul it to gig and home, seems real nice.

Exactly why I got the 500 combo! Easy to schlep around and absolutely "slays" when I need it too!

 

[Polish Thunder]

Honestly, I think a 200c would be perfect for my current projects. Even though the 2x100 packs more watts and speaker surface, the convenience is tempting (I figure every gig with the 100s, I’m hauling 3x more than I would with a single combo, with the extra amp going to and from the rehearsal room)

But, if I ever do need that extra cab, I’d be kicking myself for not getting the 500. In the tone test, I slightly favored the 500, but the 200 sounds great too!

Decisions, decisions...

So if you are running two 100W combos, which I believe would be 200W total, why would you get a 200W combo? I think you are only getting 140W out of it. Add a cab, and now you have 200 total watts, which is what you already have.

Why not get the 500C. You will get the 370W with just the combo and 500W with an added cab?

To get 200W out of the 200C, you need the combo and a cab ($800 list price for both).

A 500C ($600 list combo alone) will get you more for less. Plus adding another cab gets the full 500W.

I know....why is some new bass player giving his input. Only because I spent way too much time looking at the 200C, 500C, and the 500H with 1x15 cab. I went around and around on this.

No disrespect meant in my comments. I am just trying to absorb as much as I can on here.

 

[CallMeAl]

So if you are running two 100W combos, which I believe would be 200W total, why would you get a 200W combo? I think you are only getting 140W out of it. Add a cab, and now you have 200 total watts, which is what you already have.

Why not get the 500C. You will get the 370W with just the combo and 500W with an added cab?

To get 200W out of the 200C, you need the combo and a cab ($800 list price for both).

A 500C ($600 list combo alone) will get you more for less. Plus adding another cab gets the full 500W.

I know....why is some new bass player giving his input. Only because I spent way too much time looking at the 200C, 500C, and the 500H with 1x15 cab. I went around and around on this.

No disrespect meant in my comments. I am just trying to absorb as much as I can on here.

No problem at all, appreciate the input!

It’s a matter of convenience really. Consolidating what I have into one combo. I think watching my gig calendar fill up makes me impatient and I think it would be easier to justify a quick purchase of a used 200 for ~$300. (Budget is a concern too, I don’t have a ton to spend on gear. I rely on what little cash I take home from gigs, the $100 difference is a factor.)

And for some reason I can’t shake the feeling the 500 is overkill....

BUT, I have what I need to do the job, in all honesty it’s a mild inconvenience. I know the right thing to do is be patient and get the 500. A full gig calendar means I’ll have the $ soon enough, I can even get it new with warranty.

 

[RumbleMan3]

So if you are running two 100W combos, which I believe would be 200W total, why would you get a 200W combo? I think you are only getting 140W out of it. Add a cab, and now you have 200 total watts, which is what you already have.

Why not get the 500C. You will get the 370W with just the combo and 500W with an added cab?

To get 200W out of the 200C, you need the combo and a cab ($800 list price for both
A 500C ($600 list combo alone) will get you more for less. Plus adding another cab gets the full 500W.

I know....why is some new bass player giving his input. Only because I spent way too much time looking at the 200C, 500C, and the 500H with 1x15 cab. I went around and around on this.

No disrespect meant in my comments. I am just trying to absorb as much as I can on here.

Only reason I can say is that perhaps someone would rather the 115 speaker over 112 (or technically 212 if you pair them). I kinda wish I got the 200 combo for practice/rehearsals, because I like the tone much better, and think the 15s on the rumbles arent as boomy as the 12s.

However, I still like the rumble 100 and intend to keep it over getting a 200, because its smaller and lighter and just easier to take around for my band practice situations, and it's probably not worth getting now if I've already got the 100 anyway

Although I do see what you are saying, 2 100c's get you more watts over the 1 200c. However, I would rather take the single 200c in my case. And then I'm only have to carry one amp not two. For my practice/rehearsal purposes, 100w is enough, so 140w is more than enough for those situations.


If I wanted a bigger amp for gigs though, it would either be a 500c, 800stage, or 800h with 115 cab. Most likely that last option.

 

[CallMeAl]

Only reason I can say is that perhaps someone would rather the 115 speaker over 112 (or technically 212 if you pair them). I kinda wish I got the 200 combo for practice/rehearsals, because I like the tone much better, and think the 15s on the rumbles arent as boomy as the 12s.

However, I still like the rumble 100 and intend to keep it over getting a 200, because its smaller and lighter and just easier to take around for my band practice situations, and it's probably not worth getting now if I've already got the 100 anyway

Although I do see what you are saying, 2 100c's get you more watts over the 1 200c. However, I would rather take the single 200c in my case. And then I'm only have to carry one amp not two. For my practice/rehearsal purposes, 100w is enough, so 140w is more than enough for those situations.


If I wanted a bigger amp for gigs though, it would either be a 500c, 800stage, or 800h with 115 cab. Most likely that last option.

The 100 seems to get the most criticism, “boomy” being the chief complaint. I’ve loved most every minute with my 100s (learning curve to be expected) and that 212 rig is a beast!

I always thought of myself as a 15s guy, but was surprised by how much I liked the 210 in the 500. I also have made repeat visits with the 200 at my local store, and love that thing as well.

What’s my point? If I have one it’s that all these Rumbles are killer I’ve been laboring over a decision to get the right amount of power (since speaker size seems to be a non-issue for me) but IDK if there is a wrong decision to be made!

 

[GonePlaid]

Only reason I can say is that perhaps someone would rather the 115 speaker over 112 (or technically 212 if you pair them). I kinda wish I got the 200 combo for practice/rehearsals, because I like the tone much better, and think the 15s on the rumbles arent as boomy as the 12s.

However, I still like the rumble 100 and intend to keep it over getting a 200, because its smaller and lighter and just easier to take around for my band practice situations, and it's probably not worth getting now if I've already got the 100 anyway

Although I do see what you are saying, 2 100c's get you more watts over the 1 200c. However, I would rather take the single 200c in my case. And then I'm only have to carry one amp not two. For my practice/rehearsal purposes, 100w is enough, so 140w is more than enough for those situations.


If I wanted a bigger amp for gigs though, it would either be a 500c, 800stage, or 800h with 115 cab. Most likely that last option.

When I got my 200c(Nov, 2015)my main reason for choosing it was the external speaker capability. I've never had the volume past 1(gain around 10)and I rarely need the 112 cab. May have been better off with 2x100s. But that 15 is saweet.

 

[RumbleMan3]

I always thought of myself as a 15s guy, but was surprised by how much I liked the 210 in the 500.

Interesting. I’ve heard many say they prefer the 210s. I’ve always thought that I prefer 115s too. I’d have to try them side by side I guess.

Are 210s much heavier than 115s? About the same?

 

[JakobT]

Interesting. I’ve heard many say they prefer the 210s. I’ve always thought that I prefer 115s too. I’d have to try them side by side I guess.

Are 210s much heavier than 115s? About the same?

The difference in weight is about a kilogram.

EDIT: I suddenly realized that you might have been talking about the cabs rather than the combos. In which case the weight difference between the 115 and the 210 is zero. Zip. Zilch. Nada. Niente.

 

[Jughead6]

Interesting. I’ve heard many say they prefer the 210s. I’ve always thought that I prefer 115s too. I’d have to try them side by side I guess.

Are 210s much heavier than 115s? About the same?

I have Rumble 210 and 115 cabinets. They are physically nearly identical. The 210 is somewhat easier to handle, because it has handles on the long sides. I prefer the 115 for lower volume gigs, while the 210 sounds better for higher volumes and hard rock.

 

[CallMeAl]

Interesting. I’ve heard many say they prefer the 210s. I’ve always thought that I prefer 115s too. I’d have to try them side by side I guess.

Are 210s much heavier than 115s? About the same?

I was looking at the combos, but like Jakob said 2lbs. I was also surprised when I learned they use the same size box.

 

[RumbleMan3]

while the 210 sounds better for higher volumes and hard rock.

Why do u say that?

 

[GonePlaid]

The difference in weight is about a kilogram.

What makes up that 'kilo'?

 

[Mythoughts]

I have a Rumble 25 for practice and small venues, but for bigger places I use a Rumble 150. Really pleased with the tones I can achieve.

 

[Jughead6]

Why do u say that?

My ears.

But everyone has different ears, so YMMV.

 

[JakobT]

What makes up that 'kilo'?

Exactly one thousand new, shiny, premium, first rate grams.

 

[LoveJackBruce]

I have Rumble 210 and 115 cabinets. They are physically nearly identical. The 210 is somewhat easier to handle, because it has handles on the long sides. I prefer the 115 for lower volume gigs, while the 210 sounds better for higher volumes and hard rock.

I had the 1x15 cab and just didn't like that that it about 4 inches wider than the 500 Combo. Looked weird to me. It did however, Go BOOM!

 

[chupacerveza]

The 100 seems to get the most criticism, “boomy” being the chief complaint. I’ve loved most every minute with my 100s (learning curve to be expected) and that 212 rig is a beast!

I always thought of myself as a 15s guy, but was surprised by how much I liked the 210 in the 500. I also have made repeat visits with the 200 at my local store, and love that thing as well.

What’s my point? If I have one it’s that all these Rumbles are killer I’ve been laboring over a decision to get the right amount of power (since speaker size seems to be a non-issue for me) but IDK if there is a wrong decision to be made!

I don’t have any “boominess” complaint with my 100C, for whatever that’s worth. The 1x12 in it sounds just fine to me... and the weight makes me smile every time I lift it! I use it for classic rock and the tone dials in very nicely. I use it for rehearsal with a drummer, two guitar/dobro/mando players and a singer. Usually I’ll bring two hundred Watts for a gig, but I do like headroom, so I cover the two hundred Watt requirement with a 400W head... the Rumble 800HD with suitable cab(s).

 

[Kipp Harrington]

How far up would you dare turn the master knob with a 500 head and a 115 Rumble cab? Gain would be at 9 o'clock, bass at noon, low mids at 1 o'clock, high mids at noon, and treble at noon. Vintage engaged and horn on full. These are the settings for my Fender 60s J bass (with stock pups). I like the sound of this cab but don't want to risk damaging it at "high" volume. I would be playing mainly classic rock with either 1 or occasionally 2 guitars. Guitarist(s) running through either single 12" or 212 combo.

 

[chupacerveza]

How far up would you dare turn the master knob with a 500 head and a 115 Rumble cab? Gain would be at 9 o'clock, bass at noon, low mids at 1 o'clock, high mids at noon, and treble at noon. Vintage engaged and horn on full. These are the settings for my Fender 60s J bass (with stock pups). I like the sound of this cab but don't want to risk damaging it at "high" volume. I would be playing mainly classic rock with either 1 or occasionally 2 guitars. Guitarist(s) running through either single 12" or 212 combo.

Generally I wouldn’t worry since the head is 350 Watts at 8 ohms and the cabinet is a perfect match for it... but I would think about turning off the tweeter.

 

[G-Dog]

The 100 seems to get the most criticism, “boomy” being the chief complaint. I’ve loved most every minute with my 100s (learning curve to be expected) and that 212 rig is a beast! ... ...

I believe most of the "boom", or "boxy", complaints about the R100c are due to the lack of acoustic insulation inside. Those who have added insulation to 3 of the internal sides report a marked improvement in the tone.
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... ... I always thought of myself as a 15s guy, but was surprised by how much I liked the 210 in the 500. I also have made repeat visits with the 200 at my local store, and love that thing as well. ... ...

Me, too! I used to think only 15s could hit the tone I liked, until I heard the R500c. I couldn't believe it was 2x10s! The salesman pulled the grille off to show me, and I've become a convert. Driver size is now just another "book cover" to me, and ya know 'bout judging books ...
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... ... What’s my point? If I have one it’s that all these Rumbles are killer I’ve been laboring over a decision to get the right amount of power (since speaker size seems to be a non-issue for me) but IDK if there is a wrong decision to be made!

Alan, seems like your two R100cs have the 100-200 watt range well handled, and that's the R200c's wheelhouse. I think you "need" a R500c to cover the louder gigs. I've certainly never regretted getting mine.
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I have Rumble 210 and 115 cabinets. They are physically nearly identical. The 210 is somewhat easier to handle, because it has handles on the long sides. I prefer the 115 for lower volume gigs, while the 210 sounds better for higher volumes and hard rock.

Well, Juggy, your 115 "cabinet" must actually be a combo to be physically nearly identical to your 210, else it would have side handles, too.

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