Duh... as you can see, I sometimes embarrass myself and show my "rookieness". That makes perfect sense. I will try it with the horn cancelled and adjust the treble to taste. Thanks for the response!
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I love the weight of the R100. I just can't seem to get the volume I need. I know some of the issue is the SG Standard Humbuckers Overdriving the speaker. I need to order the Ibanez SR500E I like and try it. I believe I'd get a lot more out of the R100.
Not at all, Kipper! The head at 350 watts, 8 ohms, and the 8 ohm 115 cab, rated at 300 watts, is just a little bit of a mismatch, but not by much. (But, then, so are the 350 watt "rated", 8 ohm 2x10s built-in to the Rumble Stage 800, running up to 400 watts at 8 ohms!) I would just be listening for any sign of distress if you find yourself in a volume war. Or, to be on the safe side, get another 115 cab, then each one would only see 250 watts and the extra SPL of your 2x15 would have nothing to fear from the guit****s! Besides, what's more classic rock than 2x15?
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Besides, what's more classic rock than 2x15?
4x15?
I don’t really think the 100 itself is boomy (maybe slightly prone to it) but rather, it’s the conditions. 2 rooms I play get boomy, but the vast majority of my venues are problem free. Learning how to EQ for those rooms, and using a tilt wedge, has made a big difference. I’ve heard about the port plugs n such, but it’s never been a big enough (or ongoing) issue for me to crack it open.I believe most of the "boom", or "boxy", complaints about the R100c are due to the lack of acoustic insulation inside. Those who have added insulation to 3 of the internal sides report a marked improvement in the tone.
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Me, too! I used to think only 15s could hit the tone I liked, until I heard the R500c. I couldn't believe it was 2x10s! The salesman pulled the grille off to show me, and I've become a convert. Driver size is now just another "book cover" to me, and ya know 'bout judging books ...
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Alan, seems like your two R100cs have the 100-200 watt range well handled, and that's the R200c's wheelhouse. I think you "need" a R500c to cover the louder gigs. I've certainly never regretted getting mine.
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Well, Juggy, your 115 "cabinet" must actually be a combo to be physically nearly identical to your 210, else it would have side handles, too.
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I do believe 500w is the right move, now I just need to decide on combo or head and cab!
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I have a R410 cab also... 63 pounds, though. I think I may start utilizing both cabs. That way, no worriesNot at all, Kipper! The head at 350 watts, 8 ohms, and the 8 ohm 115 cab, rated at 300 watts, is just a little bit of a mismatch, but not by much. (But, then, so are the 350 watt "rated", 8 ohm 2x10s built-in to the Rumble Stage 800, running up to 400 watts at 8 ohms!) I would just be listening for any sign of distress if you find yourself in a volume war. Or, to be on the safe side, get another 115 cab, then each one would only see 250 watts and the extra SPL of your 2x15 would have nothing to fear from the guit****s! Besides, what's more classic rock than 2x15?
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Say G-Dog, perhaps you can answer a rhetorical question that I've been tossing around in my tiny brain... can I run the Rumble 800HD head into a sixteen Ohm cabinet? Good, bad, indifferent? Would it reduce the Wattage and would it overheat the amp are the two main concerns (I think...?)? I believe the best answer is to rewire the cab for fewer (8 or 4) Ohms, but would I NEED to... (assuming the cab can handle 800 Watts)?
Thanks for your insight!
For what it's worth, this is the reason for the question:
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Thanks for your insight!
For what it's worth, this is the reason for the question:
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You gotta get a new photo with the P bass in there too! BTW do you play more P or J with your Rumble (had to make it sound like my question was about Rumble ampsI have a R410 cab also... 63 pounds, though. I think I may start utilizing both cabs. That way, no worries
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Nope. The 115 cabinet has handles on the short sides, which makes it harder to handle.Well, Juggy, your 115 "cabinet" must actually be a combo to be physically nearly identical to your 210, else it would have side handles, too.
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I have a R410 cab also... 63 pounds, though. I think I may start utilizing both cabs. That way, no worries
Nice rig!
Crank that to 11 and it ought to blow some $#!+ up.
Turn the combo on it's side...
Okay, we’re auditioning a singer Sunday.
I’m going to bring both cabs just in case, but try running just one.
If that works, I’ll do my plan of leaving one cab at the practice place and bringing one home.
This will be my Battle Rig:
I’m going to bring both cabs just in case, but try running just one.
If that works, I’ll do my plan of leaving one cab at the practice place and bringing one home.
This will be my Battle Rig:
W ... ... Juggy, your 115 "cabinet" must actually be a combo to be physically nearly identical to your 210, else it would have side handles, too.
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Okay, right, yes, the 115 handles are on the sides of the cab, which are shorter than the width of the cab, so they tip over further, than the 210, when you pick it up by just one side. I think I see what you're saying now.
However, when you said, "210 and 115 cabinets ... are physically nearly identical", I was thinking dimensionally. But, to coin a phrase, "Matching dimensions, schmatching schmensions."
Well, if you're asking "in order to produce an effect or to make a statement rather than to elicit information", like most rhetorical questions, then . . . I'm impressed! How's that for an effect?
I dunno what statement it may be making.If you were asking a theoretical question, I would speculate that the head might produce somewhere in the neighborhood of 200+/- watts into your 16 ohm speaker load (approx. half the power into an 8 ohm load), depending on various technicalities beyond my ken, not the least of which would be the safety of the amp and/or cab. But, again, I could only speculate that it might work OK, at least at low volumes. But, I really dunno. Sorry. I can understand your reluctance to just "try it and see", and I applaud you for it, chupy.
How 'bout it, all you really technical Rumblers? What do you think? What do you know? Anybody done this, connected an 16 ohm cab to a 8/4/2 ohm amp?
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I know. Just didn't want the controls on the side. Or metal on metal from the corners.
Clueless but could look it up sommers on Google... But late and sleepy time time.Well, if you're asking "in order to produce an effect or to make a statement rather than to elicit information", like most rhetorical questions, then . . . I'm impressed! How's that for an effect?
If you were asking a theoretical question, I would speculate that the head might produce somewhere in the neighborhood of 200+/- watts into your 16 ohm speaker load (approx. half the power into an 8 ohm load), depending on various technicalities beyond my ken, not the least of which would be the safety of the amp and/or cab. But, again, I could only speculate that it might work OK, at least at low volumes. But, I really dunno. Sorry. I can understand your reluctance to just "try it and see", and I applaud you for it, chupy.
How 'bout it, all you really technical Rumblers? What do you think? What do you know? Anybody done this, connected an 16 ohm cab to a 8/4/2 ohm amp?
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I'm no expert on the higher number ohmage thing, but it seems to me a higher number wouldn't harm anything, just 1/2(+/-)the output. But! I'm one who (A)turns it on-if it works, great. If it doesn't(B)To The Shop! I don't f---* with electricity(or plumbing). I don't like getting zapped-or mopping.
-did enuff 'swabbing' in the Navy
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Thanks Tad... it’s fun giving it a little “push”. Almost feels like shooting a .44 magnum! Lol.
Hey alan... It just depends on what type of tone I’m going for. I make some EQ adjustments (on the amp) according to which bass I am using. Since the J has a more scooped sound, I generally have the high mids up a tad (about 2 o’clock) and the bridge pup rolled back a touch to “open up” the tone a little. I always have the “vintage” button engaged.You gotta get a new photo with the P bass in there too! BTW do you play more P or J with your Rumble (had to make it sound like my question was about Rumble amps
The P is noticeably punchier and I don’t need the high mids bumped at all. Everything on the amp is pretty much straight up at high noon. I may bump the low mids a tad when using the P.
The J sounds great for blues and songs that I play that require a little more warmth... like “Stuck In The Middle With You”, “Memphis” (J. Rivers) and a couple Elvis tunes I do. But honestly, it sounds good no matter what song I’m playing.
I will post a pic of my P sometime today. I have the 115 in the house and the 410 is in the out building (about 200 feet from the house). I’ll see if I have the gumption to haul it into the house for a “stack” pic with the P
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regardless of your experience, your information and opinions are welcome here. I think it may be a speaker preference. The 100 has a 12" speaker, the 200 has a 15" speaker, and the 500 has 2 10" speakers. Those speakers all present different tonal qualities.So if you are running two 100W combos, which I believe would be 200W total, why would you get a 200W combo? I think you are only getting 140W out of it. Add a cab, and now you have 200 total watts, which is what you already have.
Why not get the 500C. You will get the 370W with just the combo and 500W with an added cab?
To get 200W out of the 200C, you need the combo and a cab ($800 list price for both).
A 500C ($600 list combo alone) will get you more for less. Plus adding another cab gets the full 500W.
I know....why is some new bass player giving his input. Only because I spent way too much time looking at the 200C, 500C, and the 500H with 1x15 cab. I went around and around on this.
No disrespect meant in my comments. I am just trying to absorb as much as I can on here.
