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#42,601
Billyears IV said:
I've just been recommended an Audio Technica AT2020 mic. Decent quality and great price, so I'm considering that.

But you don't need to buy a mic immediately as you can run DI out of your Rumble. Which model do you have?

With the 500w, the amp EQ, gain, plus your effects pedals etc, are all 'fed' out along the XLR signal, which I find great. So you have your sound. Alternatively, you can plug the bass straight into the Scarlett, but its a bit sterile (although you can mess with EQ and amp simulators on the software afterwards)

As I said, I have been doing this for years and it works well. I use a Scarlett Solo which has 2 channels - one for instrument and the other for mic. It comes with free Ableton live lite DAW software, which is great when you get the hang of things (took me a while though to be able to mix and do stuff beyond the basics).

Our guitarist bought the same interface and he records his stuff as seperate tracks, onto the 'project' that I send him - my bass and drum tracks. But his amp doesnt hasve the same XLR out set up as the Rumbles, so he takes it out of an effects unit. He finds he cant get the effects pedals sound though, so he will buy a mic. Vocalist doesnt have a focusrite so he records into Audacity (also free).

I've learnt adding midi synths and sounds which is fun. Works fine for us but it did take time to be confident in handling the whole project files, mixing & mastering.

There are loads of other interfaces/software to choose from. Thats the only one Ive got to fully utilise.

Scarlett Solo | Focusrite

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lots of demo vids out there to help with using Ableton
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I own a Rumble 100.
Honestly, I just want to go for ease of use. My partner has a Boss Katana 50 MKII.

So you are saying I can run my rumble with the DI on the back of it into an interface and then that into my computer?
In any case it involves me spending money whether it is on a microphone or an interface, I just want to minimize the amount of cables etc I need. I want to go for simplicity especially for my partner since I am the one who has a little bit more of a hardware know-how :)

I have been recording through a USB mic into Audacity so far and it works well.
 
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Katoosie said:
I own a Rumble 100.
Honestly, I just want to go for ease of use. My partner has a Boss Katana 50 MKII.

So you are saying I can run my rumble with the DI on the back of it into an interface and then that into my computer?
In any case it involves me spending money whether it is on a microphone or an interface, I just want to minimize the amount of cables etc I need. I want to go for simplicity especially for my partner since I am the one who has a little bit more of a hardware know-how :)

I have been recording through a USB mic into Audacity so far and it works well.
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If you want simplicity, get the audio interface, and use the analog line out on the back of the Rumble 100.

If you go the mic route, you will need to ensure to mic the amp properly and have sufficient volume from the amp in order to capture a good bass signal. The audio signal from the line out going into an audio interface then into your DAW sounds great right of the box, and you can record at quieter volumes.

If you are going to record using any other instruments that can’t be mic’d and do not have USB connectivity, or if you want to use standard XLR (non-USB) or phantom-powered mics (like the aforementioned AT2020), you are going to need an audio interface at some point. So, it is a good investment.

Something from the suggested Scarlett line would work well. Scarlett entry-level interfaces are well-regarded and comparatively inexpensive. Within the Scarlett line, though, for an additional $50 USD, I’d recommend the Scarlett 2i2 over the Solo, as the 2i2 has 2 XLR (combo) inputs and preamps, and a separate headphone volume control. If you and your partner are together and recording simultaneously, the dual preamps will support that.
 
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If you want simplicity, then you can stick with Audacity which you know.

With interface, you will need 1 XLR cable from amp to interface. Then 1 cable from interface to pc/mac USB (often supplied with interface). Or as I said bass direct into interface.
With just a mic, I believe you can use 1 cable mic to USB, but I have no experience of this. Get other opinions here.

Our singer just bought a cheap Behringer interface, but I havent heard the quality yet.

Advantage of using an interface with line out, is no other noise(s) will be picked up/accidentally recorded. You can also do it silent using headphones - so no noise from amp (stick a spare lead in headphone jack to prevent sound).

But there will be steps to set up the interface with Audacity, which I haven't done (as I use Ableton) but someone here could easily help you...

Hope this is of some use
 
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Billyears IV said:
Our singer just bought a cheap Behringer interface, but I havent heard the quality yet.
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“Cheap” Behringer interfaces are not bad as long as you don’t have to drive them too hard. I have a 4-port UMC404HD that works very nicely.

The problem is they’re not very cheap anymore. When I got mine, they sold for just over $100 USD. Now they’re retailing for $180 USD.

For that price, I’d stick with the Scarlett line.
 
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Billyears IV said:
If you want simplicity, then you can stick with Audacity which you know.

With interface, you will need 1 XLR cable from amp to interface. Then 1 cable from interface to pc/mac USB (often supplied with interface). Or as I said bass direct into interface.
With just a mic, I believe you can use 1 cable mic to USB, but I have no experience of this. Get other opinions here.

Our singer just bought a cheap Behringer interface, but I havent heard the quality yet.

Advantage of using an interface with line out, is no other noise(s) will be picked up/accidentally recorded. You can also do it silent using headphones - so no noise from amp (stick a spare lead in headphone jack to prevent sound).

But there will be steps to set up the interface with Audacity, which I haven't done (as I use Ableton) but someone here could easily help you...

Hope this is of some use
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Of course, this is all great information! Thank you, all of you.
So, just to get this straight (sorry, I am new to all of the music recording): If I were to run AMP -> XLR -> Interface -> USB -> Computer, will the signal come out clean or will it come with all of the pedal effects running through it?
I want to preserve my sound since I do not want to have to deal with any plugins later on, I just don't care for them at this moment.

Thanks again :)
 
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Katoosie said:
Of course, this is all great information! Thank you, all of you.
So, just to get this straight (sorry, I am new to all of the music recording): If I were to run AMP -> XLR -> Interface -> USB -> Computer, will the signal come out clean or will it come with all of the pedal effects running through it?
I want to preserve my sound since I do not want to have to deal with any plugins later on, I just don't care for them at this moment.

Thanks again :)
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Yes, effected. Whether your effect pedals are in-line before the amp’s instrument input, or in the effects send/return of the amp, they will be present in the line out signal.
 
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Katoosie said:
Of course, this is all great information! Thank you, all of you.
So, just to get this straight (sorry, I am new to all of the music recording): If I were to run AMP -> XLR -> Interface -> USB -> Computer, will the signal come out clean or will it come with all of the pedal effects running through it?
I want to preserve my sound since I do not want to have to deal with any plugins later on, I just don't care for them at this moment.

Thanks again :)
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you're welcome, good luck with home recording. Lots of vids and tips out there.

Yes, as Droopy_TX says, your sound with effects chain will record to the interface. I find that way better than adding plug in effects in the software
 
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Billyears IV said:
I've just been recommended an Audio Technica AT2020 mic. Decent quality and great price, so I'm considering that.

But you don't need to buy a mic immediately as you can run DI out of your Rumble. Which model do you have?

With the 500w, the amp EQ, gain, plus your effects pedals etc, are all 'fed' out along the XLR signal, which I find great. So you have your sound. Alternatively, you can plug the bass straight into the Scarlett, but its a bit sterile (although you can mess with EQ and amp simulators on the software afterwards)

As I said, I have been doing this for years and it works well. I use a Scarlett Solo which has 2 channels - one for instrument and the other for mic. It comes with free Ableton live lite DAW software, which is great when you get the hang of things (took me a while though to be able to mix and do stuff beyond the basics).

Our guitarist bought the same interface and he records his stuff as seperate tracks, onto the 'project' that I send him - my bass and drum tracks. But his amp doesnt hasve the same XLR out set up as the Rumbles, so he takes it out of an effects unit. He finds he cant get the effects pedals sound though, so he will buy a mic. Vocalist doesnt have a focusrite so he records into Audacity (also free).

I've learnt adding midi synths and sounds which is fun. Works fine for us but it did take time to be confident in handling the whole project files, mixing & mastering.

There are loads of other interfaces/software to choose from. Thats the only one Ive got to fully utilise.

Scarlett Solo | Focusrite

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lots of demo vids out there to help with using Ableton
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You may also want to take a look at the Sennheiser e609 ($110) and e906 ($190). I've been happily using the e609 for years. I really like its design. I can just hang it over the top of the cab; no mic stand needed. Plus, it's a dynamic mic, so no phantom power required.

Sennheiser e 609 silver - Guitar Microphone - Studio, Live Performance, Recording

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You may also want to take a look at the Sennheiser e609 ($110) and e906 ($190). I've been happily using the e609 for years. I really like its design. I can just hang it over the top of the cab; no mic stand needed. Plus, it's a dynamic mic, so no phantom power required.

Sennheiser e 609 silver - Guitar Microphone - Studio, Live Performance, Recording

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Or this: Superlux PRA-628 mk II guitar amp mic~$60.Superlux PRA628 MKII Instrument Microphone | 1to1music LTD
I have 2 of these and they work great for micing amps to PA.
 
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Katoosie said:
Thanks for the reply.
We need to buy everything double if anything since we do not live together ATM. The mic setup I had is just a random non-music related microphone connected to my laptop via usb and it worked really well actually, I think.

Something like that would be the best for us I believe. Just one microphone preferably to USB, one for bass and one for guitar.

Any tips on that? :) I literally just used a computer microphone to record the bass.
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Try using the iRig. I've recorded some covers and video covers with that. Great piece of technology at a very low price. It is $7.00 USD or something like that. To make it work you'll need just your cell phone. I use my iPhone and Apple's GarageBand app. It also works with Android and similar apps. Go to YouTube and search for some videos.
 
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Katoosie said:
Thanks for the reply.
We need to buy everything double if anything since we do not live together ATM. The mic setup I had is just a random non-music related microphone connected to my laptop via usb and it worked really well actually, I think.

Something like that would be the best for us I believe. Just one microphone preferably to USB, one for bass and one for guitar.

Any tips on that? :) I literally just used a computer microphone to record the bass.
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i use this:
Behringer Xenyx 502 – Thomann UK
usb powered, can be your sound card and headphone amp too. also accepts microphone or rumble di out via XLR or can directly accept 6.3 or 3.5 mm jack from your instrument. also cheap.
 
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dORSY said:
i use this:
Behringer Xenyx 502 – Thomann UK
usb powered, can be your sound card and headphone amp too. also accepts microphone or rumble di out via XLR or can directly accept 6.3 or 3.5 mm jack from your instrument. also cheap.
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@dORSY, I have had the 1002 version of that mixer for many years of flawless performance. It is essentially a double of the 502 with two mic strips and four x two-channel pairs. The only knock I have with it is the insanely bright LED that I taped over. It fits into the 'basement' of my tone-stack rack. Though it's not so easy to mess with the EQ, the level knobs/slider I use are in the front row.

Behringer may be scoffed at by the gear snobs but I don't see how a Mackie or Yamaha would be much better, especially bang-for-buck and reliability. The fan on my big amp makes up 90% of the noise figure. We Rumblers know about good tone and value.
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