Fender Rumble Club

[Photonic]

That's correct, Photo. The footswitch doesn't move the OD button, it overrides it, so it will be out of sync one way or another. And the LED footswitch also can get out of sync. So, the economy non-LED footswitch and watching the amp's OD light is the way to go.
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Awesome! So helpful. Gonna order the switch now.

And now, back to playing!!!

Thanks G-dog for all your help.

 

[pilmat]

Let me put some closure on that weird tone issue I had. It was the B1four with the volume set too loud for the line-in of the 40c. After taking the B1four and Squier 40th P to a hotel for some quiet practice on a road trip, I had cranked the volume as it's not all that loud through the headphones I use. When I got home and plugged it back into the 40c, I got that clipped tone again. Turned down the B1four to about 25 on the master and voila, 40c tone is magic again.
Glad I found this as it had me a bit tweaked with the tone way off. So note to self, make sure any input to the line-in is on the low side as the delta comp will squash the overall sound.

P.S. I'm more stoked every day with the Squier 40th P. After searching for that kind of connection to an instrument, it's awesome to just enjoy the journey with it now. Rumble on

 

[Solude]

First off, your EQ is not flat with everything at middle points.

This comes up a lot but where did people get the idea that the tone stack at noon meant flat frequency? The built in curve is the tone/sound of an amp and the eq controls are to modify it. Remove that baked in colour and you've replaced your Ampeg/Fender with a linear audiophile amp.

Not to say knowing where flat is isn't valuable but that it shouldn't be the goal. If you want flat, run into the loop return, that's flat

 

[Gravedigger Dav]

Hello Rumblers. New member here. Just unpacked my Rumble 40 and it sounds great. I have a newbie question:

I have set my EQ controls all to 12 O'clock and will NOT be using the overdrive channel. This leaves me with 2 main controls: The gain and the master.

How should I approach using/balancing these 2 controls to effect overall volume. It looks like both control eventual volume, but the dynamics seem to improve with increasing the gain whereas the master seems to just increase raw volume.

I am playing in a home practice room with a pick with my short scale Ibanez TMB30 bass with GHS Pressurewound strings newly set up. The amp is about 2-3 feet away from me on the floor while I am sitting. I am not interested in high volume, but will be playing along with backing tracks and tutorials on my computer played through my JBL 5" monitors.

Can you help this newbie understand these two controls and how they interact? (For my electric guitar playing, I use an amp sim through my monitors so real amp controls are unfamiliar to me)

Gain is not volume, but it affects volume. Gain controls the signal coming in to the pre-amp and really is for matching the input signal from the instrument to the preamp. That is why, if you turn it up, it increases volume but also will overdrive pre-amp. That is why you get some distortion when you do. Volume is the master volume control for the power amp section. I usually run my gain on about 9 o'clock and my volume will usually be between 9 and 12.

 

[GonePlaid]

Gain is not volume, but it affects volume. Gain controls the signal coming in to the pre-amp and really is for matching the input signal from the instrument to the preamp. That is why, if you turn it up, it increases volume but also will overdrive pre-amp. That is why you get some distortion when you do. Volume is the master volume control for the power amp section. I usually run my gain on about 9 o'clock and my volume will usually be between 9 and 12.

Yup. G-9 to 10; V-as needed.

 

[Photonic]

This comes up a lot but where did people get the idea that the tone stack at noon meant flat frequency? The built in curve is the tone/sound of an amp and the eq controls are to modify it. Remove that baked in colour and you've replaced your Ampeg/Fender with a linear audiophile amp.

Not to say knowing where flat is isn't valuable but that it shouldn't be the goal. If you want flat, run into the loop return, that's flat

Boy, that was a really valuable comment for my education. Just took a leap forward. Thanks for that!

 

[Photonic]

Gain is not volume, but it affects volume. Gain controls the signal coming in to the pre-amp and really is for matching the input signal from the instrument to the preamp. That is why, if you turn it up, it increases volume but also will overdrive pre-amp. That is why you get some distortion when you do. Volume is the master volume control for the power amp section. I usually run my gain on about 9 o'clock and my volume will usually be between 9 and 12.

Super helpful! Beginning to understand these basics. Thanks so much. Great Rumble Club!

 

[Photonic]

Yup. G-9 to 10; V-as needed.

Super helpful. Thanks.

 

[Deleted member 268085]

Super helpful. Thanks.

I get that the Gain input is actually a variable pad, but I wish it had a more useful range. I've never heard of anyone needing to go beyond 12 noon straight up (really low output passive pickup). 9-10 o'clock is common for passive basses. 7 (fully CCW) for active pickups.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

This comes up a lot but where did people get the idea that the tone stack at noon meant flat frequency? ...

Because that's a natural deduction, that setting things in the middle is as flat as it gets (if not truly flat). Most people are not engineers, amp designers, etc.

 

[Solude]

Question for people who have replaced the knobs on their amp. Do the other Fender knobs fit or is there another company selling knobs that do? I can't place it but something about the default knobs just bothers me

 

[Deleted member 268085]

Question for people who have replaced the knobs on their amp. Do the other Fender knobs fit or is there another company selling knobs that do? I can't place it but something about the default knobs just bothers me

@GonePlaid has posted a link to the knobs he bought several times in this thread. Try searching it.

 

[Solude]

Thanks but they went smaller. I wonder if these will fit. Standard equipment for pretty much everything black panel.

 

[GonePlaid]

Because that's a natural deduction, that setting things in the middle is as flat as it gets (if not truly flat). Most people are not engineers, amp designers, etc.

Right. The controls on my P___ MAX 110 have a center detent(noon)with "-" to the left and "+" to the right. Dunno if it's actually 'flat' in the middle. I keep it in the 'gigmobile' as a backup.

 

[GonePlaid]

Thanks but they went smaller. I wonder if these will fit. Standard equipment for pretty much everything black panel.

Those-obviously-are "1 to 10"(no 11?). With 3 Rumbles I'd be looking at a pretty big investment, then would hafta re-learn my 'go-to' settings. Nope. And, of course, here in the Club we're used to talking in 'clock' settings.

I like the smaller knobs I got. More room for my F,L* fingers.

*Fat, Little

 

[trseal]

Question for people who have replaced the knobs on their amp. Do the other Fender knobs fit or is there another company selling knobs that do? I can't place it but something about the default knobs just bothers me

Thanks but they went smaller. I wonder if these will fit. Standard equipment for pretty much everything black panel.

I'll let you end of week. I've ordered those for a new R800, both being delivered end of the week. I put "chicken heads" on my R200 and they fit well. Should be noted however, the chicken heads can get in each others' way (adjacent knobs) because of their "beak" and "tail" length. Also some retailers say the collars (sold separately) are needed for the chicken heads. Not true. In fact they don't even fit on the Rumble posts with the knobs.

Tim

 

[trseal]

Question for people who have replaced the knobs on their amp. Do the other Fender knobs fit or is there another company selling knobs that do? I can't place it but something about the default knobs just bothers me

I agree. Something very un-Fender about the look of those fugly Rumble knobs...

Tim

 

[MadJack]

I agree. Something very un-Fender about the look of those fugly Rumble knobs...

Tim

Actually, that style knob was used on the "Tuxedo" Blackface amps of 1964, most notably the Princeton and Bassman amps. That was the year of transition from the Brownface/Cream amps to the Blackface era amps.
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[GonePlaid]

Actually, that style knob was used on the "Tuxedo" Blackface amps of 1964, most notably the Princeton and Bassman amps. That was the year of transition from the Brownface/Cream amps to the Blackface era amps.
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So, vintage fugly?

 

[MrB64]

I like the witch hats, too. I haven't made the switch yet, though.