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You’ll find a multitude of members of this club (myself included) who gig happily with Rumbles on a regular basis.
Ola, Moony! @Moondog, you are now member #1691 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations and welcome. Please put that number in your TalkBass Signature for safe keeping. Then make yourself at home here and on your Rumble Club Wiki page, the repository of all Rumbling wisdom and knowledge.
Generally, all combo amps that aren't FRFR will have some kind of "baked in tone" due to EQ settings, components, circuits, speakers, cab tuning and various such things. Combo shopping is, at least partially, finding a "baked in tone" you like, or can at least live with. Every combo's "baked in tone" has fans and detractors, so it totally depends on which opinions you choose to believe. Many Rumble fans say they have a vintage tone. You can imagine what detractors say. The frequency curves posted here were met with controversy for looking scooped with EQ at all 12 o'clock, but personally I don't see the problem. I fell in love with what I heard auditioning my Rumble 500 combo over 9 years ago, not with spec.s, pictures or curves. What prompted you to get your Rumble 100, Moony?
So, how about telling us a bit about yourself, such as your bass experience in general and your Rumble journey in particular. You'll fit right in here since we have all kinds. But we all love to ... ... ...
Rumble On!
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Excellent exclamation, thanks G-Dog! I find it pretty easy to dial in a variety of great tones on the Rumble. I bought mine because it sounded the best to me of all the light combo amps I tried.
(I play blues and rock).
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Gonna get a cab, Sharpie? Depending on what's driving it, either the 112 (still some around), the 115 or the 210, or even the 410, are all very nice. The Coupling Effect is worth considering, if driven by a combo.
But, whataya gonna drive it with, Cat-man? Ya needa 200, 500 or 800 for a cab. And, last I heard, you just hada 40. For home use, or maybe a jam, any of the combos without a cab should be plenty. But, for G.A.S., no logic is necessary. Let your imagination run wild.
Actually, the new 800 combo, with the 1/4 power switch, seems most home and small jam friendly. And I wouldn't consider anything less than the 210 or 410 cab for that in full power mode. But, there's that logic creeping in again.
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Hola, pep! Glad you see the value of the Rumbles. I used to relegate the Rumbles to practice or rehearsal status, too. That is, until the 500 came out. That little jewel made a believer out of me!
Have you played one of the new 800w combos? Maybe that could get closer to your gig level, with a cab or two, of course?
I read your first thread here on TB, looking for a 1000w 2 ohm amp. Are you still looking to stay in that category? The Rumble 800 HD head comes close. It is 2 ohm stable, so it could push up to four 8 ohm cabs, for modularity. Further, a pair of Rumble 800 HDs could get you up to 1600w into as many as eight 8 ohm cabs, with loads of headroom and some amp backup!
Just sayin'.
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Interesting stuff Gdog. I like to know the ''whys'' and the technical stuff. Thanks for sharing this.
Well, then the Rumble Talks section of your Rumble Wiki page is the place for you, Lovey! It is just chock full of "whys" and technical stuff.
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Hola, pep! Glad you see the value of the Rumbles. I used to relegate the Rumbles to practice or rehearsal status, too. That is, until the 500 came out. That little jewel made a believer out of me!
Have you played one of the new 800w combos? Maybe that could get closer to your gig level, with a cab or two, of course?
I read your first thread here on TB, looking for a 1000w 2 ohm amp. Are you still looking to stay in that category? The Rumble 800 HD head comes close. It is 2 ohm stable, so it could push up to four 8 ohm cabs, for modularity. Further, a pair of Rumble 800 HDs could get you up to 1600w into as many as eight 8 ohm cabs, with loads of headroom and some amp backup!
Just sayin'.
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Hi, no, havent played the 800w. I was playing to 500w for a demo yesterday.
Ive revised my 2ohm requirement so its not the wattage so much as driving 2ohms.
Im currently looking for an ebs td650 to serve that goal.
I have a few cab rigs so feel i can solve it all with 2ohms driving 2 4omh mnt210's.
The mnt's have the required small footprint at 600w each so transportable in my transport.
Well, then the Rumble Talks section of your Rumble Wiki page is the place for you, Lovey! It is just chock full of "whys" and technical stuff.
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Ah! So, the Rumble 800 HD is in your power and impedance range now! Then you might want to consider a pair, one & a spare, for around the same cost of just one td650.
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I strayed from the true path a bit, grabbed a Peavey MiniMAX 600 head. The 800 just a bit too spendy for me right now. The Peavey has a very flat response, so I’m thinking it’ll be good to feed the Rumble cab to get the Rumble sound. That’s the half-baked theory anyhow.Gonna get a cab, Sharpie? Depending on what's driving it, either the 112 (still some around), the 115 or the 210, or even the 410, are all very nice. The Coupling Effect is worth considering, if driven by a combo.
But, whataya gonna drive it with, Cat-man? Ya needa 200, 500 or 800 for a cab. And, last I heard, you just hada 40. For home use, or maybe a jam, any of the combos without a cab should be plenty. But, for G.A.S., no logic is necessary. Let your imagination run wild.
Actually, the new 800 combo, with the 1/4 power switch, seems most home and small jam friendly. And I wouldn't consider anything less than the 210 or 410 cab for that in full power mode. But, there's that logic creeping in again.
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Is this Coupling Effect already in operation if you use a 2x10 or 4x10? I was leaning towards the 115 cab since someone reported it used the same driver as the R200c, but maybe the 210 has more possibilities.
According the info shared earlier: yes. As I understand, consequences of the coupling effect are:
1- A narrowing of radiation pattern will occur independently of drivers/cabs being stacked vertically or horizontally. So the sound will be less spread, therefore more directional.
2- ''not huge'' but noticeable less high frequency response as a result of increased of low end.
3- Off axis placement will result in uneven sound volumes across the room, so we ought to make sure they are pointing exactly the same way (as much as possible).
4- Dynamic range increase.
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1- A narrowing of radiation pattern will occur independently of drivers/cabs being stacked vertically or horizontally. So the sound will be less spread, therefore more directional.
2- ''not huge'' but noticeable less high frequency response as a result of increased of low end.
3- Off axis placement will result in uneven sound volumes across the room, so we ought to make sure they are pointing exactly the same way (as much as possible).
4- Dynamic range increase.
* This info is exclusively taken from
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Well, there it is. Ok, the MiniMAX manual says it can do 350w continuous at 8 ohms. To me, that lets out the 300w continuous 115, but YMMV (if you can really keep the volume way down). So, to me, it requires a 210 or 410.
Yes, Sharpie, I believe the 210 and 410 already use a bit of coupling effect. But, in that respect I believe the 210 has more possibilities.
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Attention: Rumble Club Wiki Edit Alert!
I've added an interesting quote, from the venerable agedhorse no less, that I found in a recent thread to the Fender Rumble 500 Frequencies wiki that I believe to be apropos of the subject. I have made it the Prologue to that page with the intention of putting that information into some more proper perspective.
I hope this addition will be helpful to those of us interested in this topic!
Attention: Rumble Club Wiki Edit Alert!
I've added an interesting quote, from the venerable agedhorse no less, that I found in a recent thread to the Fender Rumble 500 Frequencies wiki that I believe to be apropos of the subject. I have made it the Prologue to that page with the intention of putting that information into some more proper perspective.
I hope this addition will be helpful to those of us interested in this topic!
Rumble On!
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Hey everyone! I just fired up the brand new replacement 800 combo (not Stage) that Fender sent out as a replacement for my previous amp. This one has a sympathetic vibration, too. The first was 5th position A. this is both 5th position C and 17th position C. Am I just *that* unlucky? The first buzz came from the area around the horn, this is coming from the back. Anyone else having these issues? Vid posted to YouTube so you can check it out. Rough playing as I was holding the phone and playing hammer ons for each fret up from open G.
Just to show I'm not COMPLETELY insane. This is wth the horn disconnected and the leads taped and wrapped in acoustic foam.
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Sharpie, i meant to mention that you may be interested in checking out the Peavey Mini Max Head Thread to commune with those folks.
Likewise, your Rumble 40 combo qualifies you, and anyone else here with a combo amp, for membership in The Combo Club, too. Just post a pic of your combo there and request to join. And our own Rumble brother @Miles_ONeal will induct you with an official Combo-ite number, since he is the Fearless Leader there.
Furthermore, and in finitum, almost any TalkBass Club or Special Interest you could seek is linked on the TalkBass Clubs & Special Interest Groups INDEX wiki page. Enjoy!
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So, regarding Coupling or not…..what ‘happens’ if one places their R200 (or 5-8,etc) where they are playing on one side of the stage area and then places the extension cab (say a R115) on the opposite, say min 8’ apart. Does that benefit or disrupt the sound (or just cook the drummer…). Seriously curious, or is it just better to stack?
Rumble Club members just look at you strangely and say "coupling works better when they are stacked" or so I have heard
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With side of carrots?
