Fender Rumble Club

[G-Dog]

So, regarding Coupling or not…..what ‘happens’ if one places their R200 (or 5-8,etc) where they are playing on one side of the stage area and then places the extension cab (say a R115) on the opposite, say min 8’ apart. Does that benefit or disrupt the sound (or just cook the drummer…). Seriously curious, or is it just better to stack?

Seriously?? Shirley, you can't be seriously curious about coupling across 8, or more, feet, with the drummer, & drums & cymbals & gong(s) & whoknowswhat, in the middle!! Did you read the explanation of the coupling effect, including the part where it says "it's not a huge effect" even with relatively similar wavelength & separation? Just being in the same room is not enough to get a noticeable effect.

Of course it's better to stack. Yeah, side-by-side can get it a bit, but that doesn't have the same dispersion as a vertical stack.

And what's that "5-8,etc" you refer to? Surely, Shirley, you don't mean you'd believe a PJB C8, with 8x5" speakers, could couple with a 115 at any distance! Much less 8 feet away. There was something about identical speakers?

Oooh, you kill me, JP. Thanks for the chuckle.
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[YamahaBasses]

I’ve had my Rumble 500 since 2016, so I don’t know why it’s taken so long to try and join the club. Probably because I mostly just read and rarely post. Better late then never.

I’ve always been under the impression (falsely) that having the eq knobs in the 12 o’clock position was a flat eq. I’ve only learned recently this not to be the case. I’d like to start from scratch with an actual flat eq as a baseline and work from there out to dial in my sound.

So as I don’t have to have to scour through all 2775 pages of this thread, can someone direct me to approximately where it’s discussed correct knob positions for a flat eq? Other posts on Talkbass always refer to this club thread for these eq settings.

Thanks.

 

[MadJack]

I’ve had my Rumble 500 since 2016, so I don’t know why it’s taken so long to try and join the club. Probably because I mostly just read and rarely post. Better late then never.

I’ve always been under the impression (falsely) that having the eq knobs in the 12 o’clock position was a flat eq. I’ve only learned recently this not to be the case. I’d like to start from scratch with an actual flat eq as a baseline and work from there out to dial in my sound.

So as I don’t have to have to scour through all 2775 pages of this thread, can someone direct me to approximately where it’s discussed correct knob positions for a flat eq? Other posts on Talkbass always refer to this club thread for these eq settings.

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It can be found in the Fender Rumble Wiki Pages here: Fender Rumble V3 Frequency Info

While it says for the Rumble 500, it applies to all the 4 knob EQ Rumbles (R40+)

 

[YamahaBasses]

It can be found in the Fender Rumble Wiki Pages here: Fender Rumble V3 Frequency Info

While it says for the Rumble 500, it applies to all the 4 knob EQ Rumbles (R40+)

Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.

 

[Deleted member 268085]

Just to show I'm not COMPLETELY insane. This is wth the horn disconnected and the leads taped and wrapped in acoustic foam.

Well, that sucks. You have my sympathy, no pun intended. Never noticed any on my old 200c.

 

[Pelagic]

Well, that sucks. You have my sympathy, no pun intended. Never noticed any on my old 200c.

Thanks, I appreciate it. Its just weird. I bought a new Rumble and it sounded great (I posted about it repeatedly on earlier pages in the group lol) and then it got this weird buzz from the horn.

I emailed Fender and asked for a replacement horn under warranty and they sent a brand new combo, which is unbelievable customer service. The combos are only separated by 80 pieces if the serial numbers are an indicator.

Anyway, now THIS new combo is doing the same thing. I disabled the horn and it still rattles. I REMOVED the horn and it seems ok. So weird.

I have a new ticket open with Fender and their techs to see if I can resolve it. I just wanted to post for anyone else who may be experiencing it too.

(as a side note, that rattle does not show up in my Berg, GK or Genzler amps or the Markbass Pure 210 I just picked up and changing basses doesn't fix it, even when I run a passive bass.)

 

[G-Dog]

I’ve had my Rumble 500 since 2016, so I don’t know why it’s taken so long to try and join the club. Probably because I mostly just read and rarely post. Better late then never.

I’ve always been under the impression (falsely) that having the eq knobs in the 12 o’clock position was a flat eq. I’ve only learned recently this not to be the case. I’d like to start from scratch with an actual flat eq as a baseline and work from there out to dial in my sound.

So as I don’t have to have to scour through all 2775 pages of this thread, can someone direct me to approximately where it’s discussed correct knob positions for a flat eq? Other posts on Talkbass always refer to this club thread for these eq settings.

Thanks.

Howdy, Yammy! @YamahaBasses, you are now member #1693 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations and welcome. Put that number in your TalkBass Signature for safe keeping. Then make yourself at home here and on your Rumble Club Wiki page, the repository of all Rumbling wisdom and knowledge.

Jack got you pointed directly to the answer to your question quite efficiently. For other topics you can start with the Rumble Wiki page, or just ask here!

So, how about telling us a bit about yourself, Yam, such as your bass experience in general and your Rumble journey in particular? You'll fit right in here since we have all kinds. But we all love to ... ... ...

Rumble On!
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[gl1234]

Anyone use/used a Rumble 200 V3 head? What are/were your thoughts? I have a chance to pick up an excellent condition used one. Does Fender still support discontinued amps such as this, if needed? Fyi i play "small" so this power rating is plenty.
thanks

 

[MadJack]

I just got one a couple weeks ago. I use it with a pair of TB110s (Eminence Basslite S2010 in a modified automotive bass cab) and it sounds like my Fender Rumble 40 but bigger and louder.

 

[G-Dog]

Anyone use/used a Rumble 200 V3 head? What are/were your thoughts? I have a chance to pick up an excellent condition used one. Does Fender still support discontinued amps such as this, if needed? Fyi i play "small" so this power rating is plenty.
thanks

I would certainly expect that Fender Authorized Service Centers can still repair this particular discontinued amp, for a price. Since they stil make & sell the combo version, which has the same guts, component repairs & replacements should not be a problem. But, they may not have parts for the outside case, shared by the R500h, which is also discontinued now.

The last of the famous Fender 5-Year Transferable Warranties expired December 31, 2021. And the new [This invalid link has been removed] began on January 1, 2017. I dunno when the last new 2-year Rumble 200 head warranty ran out, but I would think it's been a while now. Not sure exactly when they were discontinued. Anyway, the new warranties are no longer transferable.

Hope this helps.
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[gl1234]

Thanks G, it clearly did not register in my lame noggin that the R200H is likely the same amp [minus case] that powers the R200 combo...as you succinctly point out. Yep i would always expect to pay for out-of-warranty repairs.

I would certainly expect that Fender Authorized Service Centers can still repair this particular discontinued amp, for a price. Since they stil make & sell the combo version, which has the same guts, component repairs & replacements should not be a problem. But, they may not have parts for the outside case, shared by the R500h, which is also discontinued now.

The last of the famous Fender 5-Year Transferable Warranties expired December 31, 2021. And the new [This invalid link has been removed] began on January 1, 2017. I dunno when the last new 2-year Rumble 200 head warranty ran out, but I would think it's been a while now. Not sure exactly when they were discontinued. Anyway, the new warranties are no longer transferable.

Hope this helps.
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[G-Dog]

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Attention: Rumble Club Wiki Edit Alert!

I've added a link in the Tone sub-section of the Rumble Talks section, of your Rumble Wiki about Modeling Accuracy versus The Point Of Rumble Modeling. It's really just my opinion, but I think it holds up in light of the recent introduction of the Fender Tone Master Pro modeling "pedal" and it's accompanying Tone Master FR-10 & FR-12 amps.

I hope this addition will be helpful to those of us interested in this topic!

Rumble On!​

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[UncleDoug]

Hi all,
Does anyone know if the magnetic head attachment system and feet alignment are the same for the v2 and v3 heads?
I may be able to buy a v2 cab but not sure if the 800 head will fit.
TIA.

 

[G-Dog]

I've heard a lot of good about the rumble V2 350 head-still trying to decide between that and the r500 head for my nx upgrade; still researching.

Just wondering about the magnetic feet attachment to my r210 cab.

Actually it's not the feet. The feet fit into the cups, and that's all they do. This lowers the steel chassis of the head down against the cabinet. Under the vinyl covering is a magnetic strip which attracts the head and snugs it down tight. It's a stroke of Fender genius. All the heads are the same size and fit just fine.

...aaaaaaand here it is folks!
Meet my Tiltback Halfstack (tm)-sounds like the name of a country song.
My MudStand came today: ... ... ... I think it fits really well and the magnetic locking system saves the day:

So we’re looking at 220 watts through a 115 aimed directly at my face!
I’ll take it!
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What a difference in clarity. I saw that I had the horn on full before and now I’ve turned it completely off. Sounds fantastic!
I may even get to use it with a drummer today!

Hi all,
Does anyone know if the magnetic head attachment system and feet alignment are the same for the v2 and v3 heads?
I may be able to buy a v2 cab but not sure if the 800 head will fit.
TIA.

Yes, Uncie, the V2 & V3 cups & magnet systems are the same! See these quoted posts.

However, the V2 410 is 4 ohms, so it could pull the full 800 watts from your head, even though it can only handle 500w! Now, the V2 Neo 112 & 2x8" cabs are each 8 ohms, but can only handle 250 watts each.

Your super-powered Rumble 800 HD head really needs a V3 210 or 410, or two, to properly handle it!
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[UncleDoug]

Thanks for confirming that @G-Dog, and for the advice about power handling.

 

[Ottertail]

Hi y’all! I am shopping for my first bass and amp, as well as the same for my 8yo son. He received a Baby Taylor acoustic guitar last Christmas but the strings hurt his fingers and he won’t play it. I honestly think a bass may meet the same fate, but I really want the kids to be exposed to music and have instruments available to them. Am I suffering from dad delusions of starting a band with my kids? Yes. Yes I am.

I’ve spent a good amount of time scouring the internets for info on basses and amps. I hear that the Rumble amps can handle playing guitar through them too, which is a selling point for the kids’ future proofing. I have a very nice guitar amp and the company advised not to play bass through it.. rats. In part because of that amp, and of course the 4 kids, I need to keep some economy in my choices.

A little background - My daughter was taking ukulele in 5th grade and asked for one for Christmas. That little uke lit a flame where I thought it had all but gone out. So now I am relearning guitar after a 30-year hiatus. I took lessons in high school. It’s so much fun making music, even if I’m not very good! When your daughter with the uke teaches another child how to play “Paint It Black” on a classical guitar, it gets you right here, you know?

So back to the basses- I’m looking at a Squier mini P for my son, and a Sire for me- very much torn on P5/V5/U5/D5. They all sound great and look great on YouTube, and GC has none in stock. My guitar is a tele, so I particularly like the idea of the D5. But Geddy Lee plays a jazz bass! But those P basses look so cool too! Oh, what to do.

For the amps- given my budget I’m looking hard at the Rumble series, they offer a lot of value. The most realistic playing partners are our own family, and maybe a friend who plays in a band. I won’t need to go against a drummer for a long time. So I’m thinking the Rumble 25 for him and the 40 or 100 for me. My guitar amp is a loud 15w tube amp, and I guess I’d want to be able to keep up with it.

What I think I want to be able to do is play at home or back yard levels without a drummer. I’m not focusing on “bedroom practice” do-not-disturb levels as headphones can accomplish that. But I don’t need to accompany a drummer. Perhaps the 40 would be OK. I think GC has both so I plan to test them both, but the employees are gonna get real sick of Smoke on the Water…

 

[jwilson67]

Hi y’all! I am shopping for my first bass and amp, as well as the same for my 8yo son. He received a Baby Taylor acoustic guitar last Christmas but the strings hurt his fingers and he won’t play it. I honestly think a bass may meet the same fate, but I really want the kids to be exposed to music and have instruments available to them. Am I suffering from dad delusions of starting a band with my kids? Yes. Yes I am.

I’ve spent a good amount of time scouring the internets for info on basses and amps. I hear that the Rumble amps can handle playing guitar through them too, which is a selling point for the kids’ future proofing. I have a very nice guitar amp and the company advised not to play bass through it.. rats. In part because of that amp, and of course the 4 kids, I need to keep some economy in my choices.

A little background - My daughter was taking ukulele in 5th grade and asked for one for Christmas. That little uke lit a flame where I thought it had all but gone out. So now I am relearning guitar after a 30-year hiatus. I took lessons in high school. It’s so much fun making music, even if I’m not very good! When your daughter with the uke teaches another child how to play “Paint It Black” on a classical guitar, it gets you right here, you know?

So back to the basses- I’m looking at a Squier mini P for my son, and a Sire for me- very much torn on P5/V5/U5/D5. They all sound great and look great on YouTube, and GC has none in stock. My guitar is a tele, so I particularly like the idea of the D5. But Geddy Lee plays a jazz bass! But those P basses look so cool too! Oh, what to do.

For the amps- given my budget I’m looking hard at the Rumble series, they offer a lot of value. The most realistic playing partners are our own family, and maybe a friend who plays in a band. I won’t need to go against a drummer for a long time. So I’m thinking the Rumble 25 for him and the 40 or 100 for me. My guitar amp is a loud 15w tube amp, and I guess I’d want to be able to keep up with it.

What I think I want to be able to do is play at home or back yard levels without a drummer. I’m not focusing on “bedroom practice” do-not-disturb levels as headphones can accomplish that. But I don’t need to accompany a drummer. Perhaps the 40 would be OK. I think GC has both so I plan to test them both, but the employees are gonna get real sick of Smoke on the Water…

Geez, where to start here….

Firstly, that Tayor guitar is most likely unplayable because it needs a setup. Just about any instrument you buy from a big box retailer like GC is going need to be adjusted properly and have the action lowered to your liking. Lighter strings are also probably in order.

As far as bass amps go I’d at least get a Rumble 100 for you and the 40 for your son. A 25W solid state bass amp is completely pointless IMO and you’ll most likely end up buying something more powerful in the very near future if you do that.

That’s my 2 cents but more power to you brother and for getting your kids involved in music!

 

[SharpCat]

Hi y’all! I am shopping for my first bass and amp, as well as the same for my 8yo son. He received a Baby Taylor acoustic guitar last Christmas but the strings hurt his fingers and he won’t play it. I honestly think a bass may meet the same fate, but I really want the kids to be exposed to music and have instruments available to them. Am I suffering from dad delusions of starting a band with my kids? Yes. Yes I am.

I’ve spent a good amount of time scouring the internets for info on basses and amps. I hear that the Rumble amps can handle playing guitar through them too, which is a selling point for the kids’ future proofing. I have a very nice guitar amp and the company advised not to play bass through it.. rats. In part because of that amp, and of course the 4 kids, I need to keep some economy in my choices.

A little background - My daughter was taking ukulele in 5th grade and asked for one for Christmas. That little uke lit a flame where I thought it had all but gone out. So now I am relearning guitar after a 30-year hiatus. I took lessons in high school. It’s so much fun making music, even if I’m not very good! When your daughter with the uke teaches another child how to play “Paint It Black” on a classical guitar, it gets you right here, you know?

So back to the basses- I’m looking at a Squier mini P for my son, and a Sire for me- very much torn on P5/V5/U5/D5. They all sound great and look great on YouTube, and GC has none in stock. My guitar is a tele, so I particularly like the idea of the D5. But Geddy Lee plays a jazz bass! But those P basses look so cool too! Oh, what to do.

For the amps- given my budget I’m looking hard at the Rumble series, they offer a lot of value. The most realistic playing partners are our own family, and maybe a friend who plays in a band. I won’t need to go against a drummer for a long time. So I’m thinking the Rumble 25 for him and the 40 or 100 for me. My guitar amp is a loud 15w tube amp, and I guess I’d want to be able to keep up with it.

What I think I want to be able to do is play at home or back yard levels without a drummer. I’m not focusing on “bedroom practice” do-not-disturb levels as headphones can accomplish that. But I don’t need to accompany a drummer. Perhaps the 40 would be OK. I think GC has both so I plan to test them both, but the employees are gonna get real sick of Smoke on the Water…

There's a real break in the performance between the 40 and the lower models--I would get the 40 or above. I have the 40 and love it, but do wish I had the FX loop that comes on the 100 and up. For drummer-competition, the 40 is marginal there too. So I think the 100 is a better fit overall.

 

[John Stephen]

On basses, I suggest you go to a local shop if you have one near you -- you mentioned Guitar Center in your post -- and try out a bunch of basses. See which feels most comfortable to you, sounds the best, etc. Buy the one that feels and sounds best that you can afford. Do the same with your son, if you can bring him along.

 

[Ottertail]

The little Taylor actually plays very nicely, but those b and e strings are fine and he has ‘Palmolive hands’ I will add it is very sensitive and needs tuning every time you play it, which is aggravating. Everything else in the same house holds tune better.

He has a little Bluetooth Wonderboom speaker and I would love an inexpensive wireless solution for him. He has played (as in held and played paint it black) the mini P at GC. I plan to try J vs P style basses at GC when I have a look at the amps. My tele is the Am Pro II and I love the neck; but I also love the necks on my acoustics which are both 1-3/4” and a little fuller, so I think I’d be pretty adaptable to either a P or J neck.