Fender Rumble Club

[Joey22266]

Hello all,

I hope the wisdom of the group can help me. I recently purchased a "like new" Rumble 500 at an auction. The unit powers on and there is no sound from the speaker nor the headphone jack. Upon opening it up, I found what appears to be a potentially missing connection (see image with pink arrows).
Can someone confirm that I am indeed missing a connector that runs between these two locations, and if so, where I might purchase one?

I am interested in reviving this to use it.

Thank you all for your help in advance.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Hello all,

I hope the wisdom of the group can help me. I recently purchased a "like new" Rumble 500 at an auction. The unit powers on and there is no sound from the speaker nor the headphone jack. Upon opening it up, I found what appears to be a potentially missing connection (see image with pink arrows).
Can someone confirm that I am indeed missing a connector that runs between these two locations, and if so, where I might purchase one?

I am interested in reviving this to use it.

Thank you all for your help in advance.
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That top one is the horn on/off switch. Both its function and the connector size disparity between that and the lower connector suggest no to them being connected.
Have you tried running an instrument cable from the FX send to the FX return? Is the overdrive switch off or the overdrive controls up?

Just out of curiosity, where did the speaker wires go?plug in - the connector on the lower right of the board on the left?

 

[G-Dog]

Hello all,

I hope the wisdom of the group can help me. I recently purchased a "like new" Rumble 500 at an auction. The unit powers on and there is no sound from the speaker nor the headphone jack. Upon opening it up, I found what appears to be a potentially missing connection (see image with pink arrows).
Can someone confirm that I am indeed missing a connector that runs between these two locations, and if so, where I might purchase one?

I am interested in reviving this to use it.

Thank you all for your help in advance.
View attachment 7009777

Hi, Joe! @Joey22266, you are now member #1784 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations and welcome. Put that number in your TalkBass Signature for safe keeping. Then make yourself at home here and on your Rumble Club Wiki page, the repository of all Rumbling wisdom and knowledge.

Miles has a couple of good points to try first.

1. Try running an instrument cable from the FX Send to the FX Return. A corroded switch there can cause sound problems.​

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If that doesn't help, then ...​

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2. Try turning both the Overdrive & Level knobs up halfway. If they are both fully counterclockwise with the Overdrive button (& light) turned On then it works as a mute!!​

Sorry, though, amp "repair" is not as simple as just connecting all the connectors randomly. If neither of the numbered thigs above work, then your best bet is to talk to your nearest Fender Authorized Service Center about having them repair it. They are, after all, the only ones who can get the actual proper parts. Let us know how it goes.

So, tell us a bit about yourself, Joe, such as your bass experience in general and your Rumble journey in particular. You'll fit right in here since we have all kinds. But we all love to ... ... ...

Rumble On!
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[Joey22266]

That top one is the horn on/off switch. Both its function and the connector size disparity between that and the lower connector suggest no to them being connected.
Have you tried running an instrument cable from the FX send to the FX return? Is the overdrive switch off or the overdrive controls up?

Just out of curiosity, where did the speaker wires go?plug in - the connector on the lower right of the board on the left?

Thanks for the reply Miles.
I tried running an instrument cable from the FX send to FX return. Still no sound. Also moved the overdrive switch to both on and off positions as well as varied the overdrive control - still nothing. In fact, I've moved all the switches and dials and still got nothing.

The speaker wire does go to the connector in the lower right of the board on the left, on the four pin connector.

So I'm still looking for suggestions or I'm headed to a repair person if anyone has a recommendation in the Central Ohio area.

Thanks again.

 

[DCGuy]

The input jacks on the back of my Rumble cabs have me confused. I have a bass head (Darkglass microtubes 200) that I'd like to connect to two Rumble 210 cabs. The head has only one output jack. The cabs have two input jacks, one speakon and one quarter inch. Written on the back it says "parallel inputs." Is it possible to connect both cabs and get the full 200 watts out of my head? It doesn't look like I can daisy chain the cabinets because both jacks on the back are inputs??

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Thanks for the reply Miles.
I tried running an instrument cable from the FX send to FX return. Still no sound. Also moved the overdrive switch to both on and off positions as well as varied the overdrive control - still nothing. In fact, I've moved all the switches and dials and still got nothing.

The speaker wire does go to the connector in the lower right of the board on the left, on the four pin connector.

So I'm still looking for suggestions or I'm headed to a repair person if anyone has a recommendation in the Central Ohio area.

Thanks again.

Low probability, but did you try running something into the aux input? Or a pedal into the FX return?

 

[Miles_ONeal]

The input jacks on the back of my Rumble cabs have me confused. I have a bass head (Darkglass microtubes 200) that I'd like to connect to two Rumble 210 cabs. The head has only one output jack. The cabs have two input jacks, one speakon and one quarter inch. Written on the back it says "parallel inputs." Is it possible to connect both cabs and get the full 200 watts out of my head? It doesn't look like I can daisy chain the cabinets because both jacks on the back are inputs??

The intent of the parallel inputs is that you can use either one, depending on what your amp's output connector is. Depending on impedances, you could plug amp into cab1, then use cab1's other input as an output to cab 2.

The cabs are 8 ohms, so two in parallel yields 4 ohms. The Darkglass manual says it produces 200W into 4 ohms, so yes, that should work.

 

[G-Dog]

The input jacks on the back of my Rumble cabs have me confused. I have a bass head (Darkglass microtubes 200) that I'd like to connect to two Rumble 210 cabs. The head has only one output jack. The cabs have two input jacks, one speakon and one quarter inch. Written on the back it says "parallel inputs." Is it possible to connect both cabs and get the full 200 watts out of my head? It doesn't look like I can daisy chain the cabinets because both jacks on the back are inputs??

The intent of the parallel inputs is that you can use either one, depending on what your amp's output connector is. Depending on impedances, you could plug amp into cab1, then use cab1's other input as an output to cab 2.

The cabs are 8 ohms, so two in parallel yields 4 ohms. The Darkglass manual says it produces 200W into 4 ohms, so yes, that should work.

Miles is exactly right, DC. I can only add this visual aid from a (the?) Fender Bass Cab manual:

 

[Ralph124C41]

Here's a question: I've searched the forum and can't find yet exactly the answer I wanted.

I have a Rumble V3 100 coming to me in a few days. It's rated 100W with an internal 8-ohm speaker. That's it with no provision to add a cab to increase the power such as in the V3 200 and V3 500.

What if I buy another Rumble 100 (or another amp) and daisy chain them together ... making sure the other amp also has an 8-ohm speaker.

What will happen ... hopefully not an explosion. Will I get 200 watts or will I get still 100 watts but with the "perceived" increase of about 25 percent or so.

I imagine I would need to use a speaker cable but would a regular instrument cable be OK?

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Here's a question: I've searched the forum and can't find yet exactly the answer I wanted.

I have a Rumble V3 100 coming to me in a few days. It's rated 100W with an internal 8-ohm speaker. That's it with no provision to add a cab to increase the power such as in the V3 200 and V3 500.

What if I buy another Rumble 100 (or another amp) and daisy chain them together ... making sure the other amp also has an 8-ohm speaker.

What will happen ... hopefully not an explosion. Will I get 200 watts or will I get still 100 watts but with the "perceived" increase of about 25 percent or so.

I imagine I would need to use a speaker cable but would a regular instrument cable be OK?

You daisy chain two rumbles by running an instrument cable from the fx send of one to the fx return of the other. This lets the preamp of the first rumble control power amp/speaker of both, providing up to 200 watts without worrying about impedance. See the rumble wiki for more details. And welcome!

 

[MadJack]

Here's a question: I've searched the forum and can't find yet exactly the answer I wanted.

I have a Rumble V3 100 coming to me in a few days. It's rated 100W with an internal 8-ohm speaker. That's it with no provision to add a cab to increase the power such as in the V3 200 and V3 500.

What if I buy another Rumble 100 (or another amp) and daisy chain them together ... making sure the other amp also has an 8-ohm speaker.

What will happen ... hopefully not an explosion. Will I get 200 watts or will I get still 100 watts but with the "perceived" increase of about 25 percent or so.

I imagine I would need to use a speaker cable but would a regular instrument cable be OK?

When you daisy chain them as talked often in this thread, you are using two separate power stages with one preamp and Volume. To do this, you are going from the Effects Out of the primary amp to the Effects Return of the secondary amp. This output comes after the everything from the GAIN to the MASTER. All you are doing is sending the preamp signal to the power amp of two separate sources and each power amp has their own speaker. Any signal loss splitting between two outputs is minimal.

 

[Ralph124C41]

You daisy chain two rumbles by running an instrument cable from the fx send of one to the fx return of the other. This lets the preamp of the first rumble control power amp/speaker of both, providing up to 200 watts without worrying about impedance. See the rumble wiki for more details. And welcome!

Thanks. As I said I did try to find the answer to this question ... and for the second time in my life, I failed. (Yeah, right). Thanks.

 

[G-Dog]

... ... I have a Rumble V3 100 coming to me in a few days. ... ... with no provision to add a cab to increase the power such as in the V3 200 and V3 500.

What if I buy another Rumble 100 (or another amp) and daisy chain them together ... making sure the other amp also has an 8-ohm speaker. ... ... Will I get 200 watts ... ...

Hey, Ralphie, boy! @Ralph124C41, you are now member #1785 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations and welcome. Put that number in your TalkBass Signature for safe keeping. Then make yourself at home here and on your Rumble Club Wiki page, the repository of all Rumbling wisdom and knowledge. Especially see the Connecting Combos Together section for more discussions about your questions (though Miles and Jack already gave you the bottom line).

So, how about telling us a bit about yourself, Ralph, such as your bass experience in general and your Rumble journey in particular? You'll fit right in here since we have all kinds. But we all love to ... ... ...

Rumble On!
.​

 

[trseal]

Hey, Ralphie, boy! @Ralph124C41, you are now member #1785 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations and welcome. Put that number in your TalkBass Signature for safe keeping. Then make yourself at home here and on your Rumble Club Wiki page, the repository of all Rumbling wisdom and knowledge. Especially see the Connecting Combos Together section for more discussions about your questions (though Miles and Jack already gave you the bottom line).

So, how about telling us a bit about yourself, Ralph, such as your bass experience in general and your Rumble journey in particular? You'll fit right in here since we have all kinds. But we all love to ... ... ...

Rumble On!
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Mr. Dog, I fear you are giving your age away with that one. As am I for knowing that...

Tim

 

[G-Dog]

Hey, Ralphie, boy! ... ... ...

Mr. Dog, I fear you are giving your age away with that one. As am I for knowing that...

Tim

Pow! Zoom!

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[KenB]

I have a question about the Fender logo on the Rumble extension cabinets...

Is the Fender logo on the current version of the Rumble 115 made of metal or plastic?

The logo on the Rumble cabinets was originally the same plastic "flat" logo as comes on the Rumble combos, but sometime in the past was changed to a blackface-type logo to better match with the Bassman series heads:

I noticed the other day that the logo on the newer Rumble 115 has a "registered trademark" (R) over the final r, like the logos on Fender's inexpensive practice amps. I assume those logos are plastic.

I had thought that the "blackface" logos on the newer Rumbles were the same "normal" metal logos as on the other Fender amps, but maybe not!

Anyone know?
And if the logo IS plastic, is it "full size" (the same size as on the Bassmans), or is it smaller?

Thanks!

 

[stingray69]

I have a question about the Fender logo on the Rumble extension cabinets...

Is the Fender logo on the current version of the Rumble 115 made of metal or plastic?

The logo on the Rumble cabinets was originally the same plastic "flat" logo as comes on the Rumble combos, but sometime in the past was changed to a blackface-type logo to better match with the Bassman series heads:

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I noticed the other day that the logo on the newer Rumble 115 has a "registered trademark" (R) over the final r, like the logos on Fender's inexpensive practice amps. I assume those logos are plastic.

I had thought that the "blackface" logos on the newer Rumbles were the same "normal" metal logos as on the other Fender amps, but maybe not!

Anyone know?
And if the logo IS plastic, is it "full size" (the same size as on the Bassmans), or is it smaller?

Thanks!

Just measured mine - yes it's plastic.

The "swoop" at the bottom is just a hair over 5" long.

The height of the "F" in Fender is about 2.45in tall.

I have no experience with the size of the Bassman logos, but hope this helps.

 

[KenB]

Just measured mine - yes it's plastic.

The "swoop" at the bottom is just a hair over 5" long.

The height of the "F" in Fender is about 2.45in tall.

I have no experience with the size of the Bassman logos, but hope this helps.

Thanks!

Looks like the plastic blackface logo is about the same size as the metal ones.

I was hoping for metal, but if the Rumble cabinet grille frames are as lightweight as on the combos, they might not support a heavier metal logo.

 

[donhank]

NAD here at the monastery. I see a Deltalite 2512 transplant in this amp's future . . .

 

[MadJack]

Thanks!

Looks like the plastic blackface logo is about the same size as the metal ones.

I was hoping for metal, but if the Rumble cabinet grille frames are as lightweight as on the combos, they might not support a heavier metal logo.

I know of a few members of the Rumble Club that have swapped for the metal logos. I haven't heard/read of anyone having issues once the metal ones were mounted.

The flat logos are from '63 and other from early '60s. One or the other were used during the transition from Brown/Cream era amps into the early Blackface amps. The knobs on the Rumbles are the cupcake style knobs used on the same era amps. Later amps went to the numbered witch hat style amp knobs, about the same time as the went to the raised black and chrome logos.

Leo Fender was notorious for using up all of the old stock (sometime a while after the style change was made) before moving on to new style parts. This would include, Tolex, grill cloth, logos and knobs. The Rumble gear appear to be made to look like '63/'64, early Blackface transitional amps.