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Ok so now on to a serious question....the DI on my rumbles. I've run the DI out to the board at every gig last few months. I'm not sure I like the sound it sends. It doesn't seem like it is what my amp sounds like on stage. What gives? I read "speaker simulation" somewhere, so what exactly is that in terms of the rumbles? It also seems like if I turn up either my gain or master volume and my volume goes up in the FOH system. Any ideas on that? I had read that only the gain should do that and NOT the master volume. True? Am I hearing things? Any advice anyone has on using the DI much appreciated...got three gigs this weekend! Thanks fellow members!
 
Ok so now on to a serious question....the DI on my rumbles. I've run the DI out to the board at every gig last few months. I'm not sure I like the sound it sends. It doesn't seem like it is what my amp sounds like on stage. What gives? I read "speaker simulation" somewhere, so what exactly is that in terms of the rumbles? It also seems like if I turn up either my gain or master volume and my volume goes up in the FOH system. Any ideas on that? I had read that only the gain should do that and NOT the master volume. True? Am I hearing things? Any advice anyone has on using the DI much appreciated...got three gigs this weekend! Thanks fellow members!
OK, first of all Rumbles do not have a DI. Rumbles have an XLR out which is post everything, but you do have some leeway in that you can nudge your stage volume up a bit if needed. So yes if you go jacking your volume all over the place it does have it's effect. Cabinet Simulation is a very pleasant bit of magic Fender circuitry that saves you $200 for a good microphone. All you need is a mic cable.
 
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Hey Linnin, so if my sound out front through the board seems mid scooped and a little boomy I should really boost my mids quite a bit and maybe cut the lows? Which would probably not sound exactly the way I want through my cab, but would solve the FOH issue? This is with the 500 combo btw....thanks! Using the xlr out :) I stand corrected.
I generally have the EQ fairly flat with a slight mid boost to 1 o'clock.
 
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Hey Linnin, so if my sound out front through the board seems mid scooped and a little boomy I should really boost my mids quite a bit and maybe cut the lows? Which would probably not sound exactly the way I want through my cab, but would solve the FOH issue? This is with the 500 combo btw....thanks! Using the xlr out :) I stand corrected.
I generally have the EQ fairly flat with a slight mid boost to 1 o'clock.
No. If you sound great on stage and scooped & boomy out front, that's a PA issue that needs to be addressed by the entire band and the soundman. Because that means the PA is not properly EQ'd for the venue or the band. Look at the PA's graphic EQ, is it the typical brainless smiley face? If it is, there's your 'scooped & boomy' right there. You have a right to be heard out front the very same way you sound on stage. Bring the sound guy up and say listen up dude this is the way I want my bass to sound out front. No ifs; ands, or buts. Demand he get it right. That's what he's getting paid for.
 
Another option if you don't care for the sound you are getting from the XLR out is to get a DI that will split the signal from you bass and send one side to the amp and the other to the FOH. Then you can control your stage sound and let the soundman control your FOH sound.
The post everything of the XLR out is the only feature of the Rumble I wish was different. In a perfect world, you would have the option to switch from post to pre.
 
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Another option if you don't care for the sound you are getting from the XLR out is to get a DI that will split the signal from you bass and send one side to the amp and the other to the FOH. Then you can control your stage sound and let the soundman control your FOH sound.
The post everything of the XLR out is the only feature of the Rumble I wish was different. In a perfect world, you would have the option to switch from post to pre.

I'm 100% with you on this.

This is why I always insist on using my own VT Bass DI so I have full control over what goes out to the FOH, while still maintaining separate control for my stage sound. What sounds good in the house mix is not always what's best for your amp as the stage monitor.
 
For many of our gigs we do our own sound. We just started using a new presonus 16.0.2 board. For my bass channel, we went with the electric bass preset #1 as that's what is the recommended starting point. That may be the culprit....there are 2 other presets I believe. I think we need to try the others to see what is best. I am new to the board, so I did not see what the EQ curve is for that preset. I'm willing to bet it's a scooped preset. Guess I need to delve into that a little bit today. So the sound from the xlr out really should be what is going to the board and it must be the board that is coloring my sound in the FOH mix then Linnin? I'm not in favor of micing my cab so I need the xlr to work the way I want. Thanks!
 
So the sound from the xlr out really should be what is going to the board and it must be the board that is coloring my sound in the FOH mix then Linnin?
That is correct. Run your bass channel flat with no preset. Adjust your trim pad as needed to run your channel volume about 1/3. Let the power of the PA do all the work. Don't run your board like a guitar amp with the channel volume over half way. That's the wrong way, and very common mistake.
 
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Will give it a shot without a preset. We've been running out channels at unity and then bringing them down a little from there if needed. It's a great sounding board so far so we are just learning it and getting things the way we want. The guitars sound fantastic, so my turn now :). Vocals are great too. The drummer and I need the tweaking...always last in line :(. Thanks Linnin!
 
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