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Fender Rumble DI Question

wombolombo

wombolombo

Nov 29, 2003
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I’ve been playing bass for many years, but am just now getting into recording myself on my laptop. I’m at the stage of trying to find my preferred signal chain so I can get a good tone. One of the things I tried was the DI out of my Fender Rumble 100 (I like the tone I have in my headphones when I practice). The problem is that the tone coming out of the DI doesn’t seem the same as the tone I hear in my headphones when I practice. My signal chain is bass > Fender Rumble > Audiobox Go > MacBook/Garageband. I use the same headphones that I use for practicing.

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Artman said:
I would skip the Rumble altogether for recording.
Garageband has amp sims, and some pretty good ones.
Get a good dedicated active Di. Go Bass>DI> Audiobox>Mac
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Thanks! So far I haven’t found an amp sim in GB that I like. The clean DI is the one I like the most, but I’ll probably give them another try at some point.

For the active DI…you’re talking about a straight DI box, not a preamp pedal, right? If a straight DI box, what purpose does it serve in this case?
 
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Your headphones are greatly going sound different from monitors. (Depending on what you are using).

I would concentrate on getting the sound right in the mix over the monitors. Is you DI post? (In other words does your EQ effect the signal).

Personally, most amp DI work but are not the best. You might want to consider and solid DI and concentrate on plugin EQs.
 
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jthisdell said:
The DI in Rumbles is post everything including master.
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Not true on the Rumble 800 (not necessarily the stage 800- I don't know anything about those). I suspect this depends on model or perhaps model and version. I looked at the circuits/block diagram quite a bit after discussing the tone stack here. See the manual/block diagram.

The Rumble 800 has a di pre/post switch as well as ground lift and allows the master volume not to affect level.... which is one of my annoyances with DI on bass amps if you are using the amp for monitoring, changing master vol can mess with front of house.
 
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erratick said:
Not true on the Rumble 800 (not necessarily the stage 800- I don't know anything about those). I suspect this depends on model or perhaps model and version. I looked at the circuits/block diagram quite a bit after discussing the tone stack here. See the manual/block diagram.

The Rumble 800 has a di pre/post switch as well as ground lift and allows the master volume not to affect level.... which is one of my annoyances with DI on bass amps if you are using the amp for monitoring, changing master vol can mess with front of house.
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Yeah I’m no fan of amp DIs…They are an afterthought in most cases IMHO.
 
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wombolombo said:
Unfortunately I don’t like any of the amp sims in GB…that is the first thing I tried.
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Ok, understood, but the signal chain of bass to interface to computer is a good one. If you don’t like the sounds in Garage Band then I’d suggest doing some research and experimentation. Maybe you’ll like the sound better without the amp sim. But you can certainly get a good sound with nothing more than your interface and computer.
 
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erratick said:
Not true on the Rumble 800 (not necessarily the stage 800- I don't know anything about those). I suspect this depends on model or perhaps model and version. I looked at the circuits/block diagram quite a bit after discussing the tone stack here. See the manual/block diagram.

The Rumble 800 has a di pre/post switch as well as ground lift and allows the master volume not to affect level.... which is one of my annoyances with DI on bass amps if you are using the amp for monitoring, changing master vol can mess with front of house.
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According to @lowplaces back in post #4, recent 100s have it. That's one of the things I immediately disliked about my old one and sold it.That, and the fact it really couldn't hang with 2 guitars and a loud-ish drummer playing classic rock. Great for solo practice though.
The 200 would have worked out, but I got a fantastic local deal on one of the special edition all black Stealth ones. I wasn't really in the market for any of the Rumbles at the time.
 
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Relsom said:
According to @lowplaces back in post #4, recent 100s have it. That's one of the things I immediately disliked about my old one and sold it.That, and the fact it really couldn't hang with 2 guitars and a loud-ish drummer playing classic rock. Great for solo practice though.
The 200 would have worked out, but I got a fantastic local deal on one of the special edition all black Stealth ones. I wasn't really in the market for any of the Rumbles at the time.
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In looking at Fender.com…the 800 shows a pre/post switch near the di out. The 100 doesn’t appear to have one (unless they haven’t updated the images yet)
 
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EricOnTheBass said:
Ok, understood, but the signal chain of bass to interface to computer is a good one. If you don’t like the sounds in Garage Band then I’d suggest doing some research and experimentation. Maybe you’ll like the sound better without the amp sim. But you can certainly get a good sound with nothing more than your interface and computer.
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Yeah, my general opinion on amps is that if you have to work too hard to get a good tone then it’s not the right amp. The clean di is the one I liked the best. I probably will mess with it some more, just for grins.
 
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TonyP- said:
Your headphones are greatly going sound different from monitors. (Depending on what you are using).

I would concentrate on getting the sound right in the mix over the monitors. Is you DI post? (In other words does your EQ effect the signal).

Personally, most amp DI work but are not the best. You might want to consider and solid DI and concentrate on plugin EQs.
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Yeah…I’m only using headphones for practice and recording (I don’t even own studio monitors). On this amp the di is post everything.
 
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Relsom said:
According to @lowplaces back in post #4, recent 100s have it. That's one of the things I immediately disliked about my old one and sold it.That, and the fact it really couldn't hang with 2 guitars and a loud-ish drummer playing classic rock. Great for solo practice though.
The 200 would have worked out, but I got a fantastic local deal on one of the special edition all black Stealth ones. I wasn't really in the market for any of the Rumbles at the time.
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Here is what Fender said in 2022 in regard to the Rumble 100

"ADDENDUM / TECHNICAL NOTE
Due to ongoing supply issues, some units may be built with an
alternate power supply and amplifier module. This will not change
the audio performance of the product; however, these units
require a 4-ohm speaker rather than the original 8-ohm specifica-
tion. Should replacement of a speaker ever be required, qualified
service personnel should note the impedance rating (8 ohms or 4
ohms) indicated on the speaker itself and use a replacement with
the same impedance rating.
Additionally, units built with the alternate power module include
the added pre/post switch that lets the user set the XLR output to
provide pre- (direct) or post-preamp/EQ signal."
 
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