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Fender, the first and still the best?

#41
Krügmeister;9483419 said:
...Your gonna get flamed SO HARD for this.
One CANNOT start a Fender love thread without the usual suspects chiming in on how much better thier "boutique" is, or how much like sheep you are for playing a Fender.
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You said it! Here come the Fender sheep again! And doubtless they are all talking 4 strings because...well, Jaco played a "vintage" (read pawn shop) 4 string Fender!

I love the way he compared to an Ibanez which is like the "Fender" of "modern" basses and a company that actually knows that basses can have more than 4 strings. I'm sure the Ibanez felt like a "toy" based on the massive weight of Fenders. When you get older, you may change your mind as to which is the "toy"!

But so long as we are having a stupid Fender love fest, (Hey I LOVE all those old golden oldies, don't you? NO rock was ever written anymore once disco hit! And only a Fender can play that old cra...er stuff) let me compare to my Conklin 7 string.

Gosh, that "boutique" bass actually has some electronics in it. Electronics that Leo couldn't even DREAM about. And even better it has extended range far enough into the stratosphere that Leo is now spinning in his grave at the thought! Did I tell you Jaco only needed 4 strings on a passive Fender?

Maybe if some of you Fender-lovers were to bring your MUSIC forward out of the dark ages, Fender might get around to offering basses that represent some of the more recent advances in bass guitars!

Hey, If I want "old school" Fender Tone, I'll haul out my SX Jazz. Given it's price point, I think that we can all agree that simply based on price it is "BEST"!

And I suspect my SX is the best bass for metal too!

:hiding:

OK, I have to admit it. I actually do own a real Fender too...but is does at least have real electronics and 5 strings!
 
#44
I am a Fender lover myself but I do think they are the standard in tone and playability not because of the quality of the product but because we had 50+ years of conditioning. I love my Warwick thumb but why do I always go back to my Jazz bass? not because it sounds or plays better but because it it feels and sounds natural Our brains gravitate to what we are familiar with.

Kids might feel the same way about Ibanez vs Fender because that is what they were brought up on.

Does a P-bass sit in the mix on a record perfect because the bass is perfect? No, because over the years recording engineers learned how to manipulate that unique tone into a work of art.

High tech basses will always have a special place in our hearts because its new and fancy but at the end of the day if we had to take one bass on a make or break gig, 9 out of 10 times people will take their trusty, time tested, Fender :bassist:
 
#47
bassbenj said:
You said it! Here come the Fender sheep again! And doubtless they are all talking 4 strings because...well, Jaco played a "vintage" (read pawn shop) 4 string Fender!

I love the way he compared to an Ibanez which is like the "Fender" of "modern" basses and a company that actually knows that basses can have more than 4 strings. I'm sure the Ibanez felt like a "toy" based on the massive weight of Fenders. When you get older, you may change your mind as to which is the "toy"!

But so long as we are having a stupid Fender love fest, (Hey I LOVE all those old golden oldies, don't you? NO rock was ever written anymore once disco hit! And only a Fender can play that old cra...er stuff) let me compare to my Conklin 7 string.

Gosh, that "boutique" bass actually has some electronics in it. Electronics that Leo couldn't even DREAM about. And even better it has extended range far enough into the stratosphere that Leo is now spinning in his grave at the thought! Did I tell you Jaco only needed 4 strings on a passive Fender?

Maybe if some of you Fender-lovers were to bring your MUSIC forward out of the dark ages, Fender might get around to offering basses that represent some of the more recent advances in bass guitars!

Hey, If I want "old school" Fender Tone, I'll haul out my SX Jazz. Given it's price point, I think that we can all agree that simply based on price it is "BEST"!

And I suspect my SX is the best bass for metal too!

:hiding:

OK, I have to admit it. I actually do own a real Fender too...but is does at least have real electronics and 5 strings!
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Wow~ you say just because folks know fender and use them for years they are sheep? It was and to many still the sound, a sound that will stand for time. Some of us don't feel feel the need for more than 4 strings and last i checked that "old school" way has survived and works fine. After all we are bass players not guitarists :rolleyes:

Look maybe you are a Conklin sheep,a boutique sheep and for sure a multi-string extended scale sheep...right? We simple 4 string sheep's are fine... trust me. I will know one thing for sure. Your fancy multi stringed basses will never outproduce or make more albums and top recorded songs then already have been been produced..allot on Fenders and on just 4 little old strings.
 
#51
Spectors are my favorite basses, but I understand what the OP is saying. The Fender P bass is another bass that I love to play (can't say the same for the Jazz). Just today, I was listening to The Cult - "Electric" recording and there's that distinctive P bass sound; great stuff! Yep, the old, tried and true Fenders always have their place in music; yesterday or today.
 
#53
bassbully said:
Wow~ you say just because folks know fender and use them for years they are sheep? It was and to many still the sound, a sound that will stand for time. Some of us don't feel feel the need for more than 4 strings and last i checked that "old school" way has survived and works fine. After all we are bass players not guitarists :rolleyes:

Look maybe you are a Conklin sheep,a boutique sheep and for sure a multi-string extended scale sheep...right? We simple 4 string sheep's are fine... trust me. I will know one thing for sure. Your fancy multi stringed basses will never outproduce or make more albums and top recorded songs then already have been been produced..allot on Fenders and on just 4 little old strings.
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Don't take him too seriously, he's loony.
 
#55
bassbully said:
Your fancy multi stringed basses will never outproduce or make more albums and top recorded songs then already have been been produced..allot on Fenders and on just 4 little old strings.
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You had me until you said that; now I can't take your comment seriously anymore. You're really of the, "Well, more people recorded with this brand, so therefore this brand must be the best" school of thought? Wow.:rollno:

These threads always make me depressed - complete knob-heads on both sides of the issue...
 
#56
Play what you want, but I don't understand the Fender hate thing, at all.

Is someone a sheep because he likes the sound of a specific--tried and true--bass and could care less about the newest, space program composite, 14 string, nuclear powered, super bass?

I think good Precisions and Jazz Basses have a pleasing tone people like to hear, the same way a good Strat or Les Paul does. They just sound "right", like SRV's Strat sounds right. Is it the only sound? Nope. Is it the most popular type of tone? Probably. Is it popular because we're sheep? Na-a-a-a-a-ah!
 
#60
I won't even start to say that Fender's are the best. I don't want every Sadowsky clone lover or any one else get on my back about it.

What I do know is that my Jazz is the best for me. It gives me every tone I want out of one instrument, I don't have to change mid gig just to get the sound I need for a different song. That is a big deal to me, I don't like changing constantly. It plays great, sounds great, and is well made. Really couldn't ask for more.

That's not to say I don't like different basses, but if I could only have one it would be a Fender Jazz...hands down.
 

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