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Fender, the first and still the best?

#61
Muaguana said:
You had me until you said that; now I can't take your comment seriously anymore. You're really of the, "Well, more people recorded with this brand, so therefore this brand must be the best" school of thought? Wow.:rollno:

These threads always make me depressed - complete knob-heads on both sides of the issue...
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Hummmmmmmmm.....Really? You assumed i am one of those type's who say because one brand recorded more its the best but thats not how i feel.
He was dissing Fenders and four string players... Right? In my statement i said there will be more Top music produced on Fender's and 4 strings than any fancy, custom, multi stringed basses.
I am pretty sure most of this is true since Fender was and is a stable bass in studio's worldwide and in early bass years really all that were used on recordings. Also they only had 4 strings.

I Never said this makes Fenders or 4 strings better. I said it was and still is the way it has been done and in allot of way's still is. Any knob head should of seen that :smug:
 
#63
bassbully said:
Hummmmmmmmm.....Really? You assumed i am one of those type's who say because one brand recorded more its the best but thats not how i feel.
He was dissing Fenders Right? In my statement i said there will be more Top music produced on Fender's and 4 strings than any fancy, custom, multi stringed basses.
I am pretty sure most of this is true since Fender was and is a stable bass in studio's worldwide and in early bass years really all that were used on recordings. Also they only had 4 strings.

I Never said this makes Fenders or 4 strings better. I said it was and still is the way it has been done and in allot of way's still is. Any knob head should of seen that :smug:
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Seriously? We're REALLY having another one of these debates? :rolleyes:
 
#67
mgauge said:
Yes, so get over it!:hyper:
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#68
Beyond the Fender guitar strap that came with the first bass I ever owned, an $80 no name used pos that probably wasn't worth $25, I've never had in my possession a single piece of Fender equipment. Yet I still play bass!

I think the reason is purely asthetic. Fenders are undoubtedly classic and comparisons between Fender and every other bass on the market are justified because Fender is the standard by which all others are measured. But for me, they're generic looking. I think that with almost any decent bass or amp you can find a good enough sound and tone onstage. I guess a debate could be had over what's decent but like everything else in any discussion about equipment it's always subjective.

P.S. Black is the best color.
 
#69
I put heavy La Bella flats on my '60 P a couple weeks ago, and now not only am I neglecting my Sadowsky and Alleva Copplo 5-strings, fine instruments though they are, but to my surprise many of the people I play with are begging me to use the P on the gig all the time, even when it doesn't seem like the appropriate instrument (e.g., on popping/slapping tunes).

-Steve
 
#70
Fender is like the house you grew up in.

You end up living in it into adulthood and maybe your parents move on (or sadly pass on) and leave it to you. It's familiar; you love and take comfort in it and will be there until you die (or it burns down!).

Or like some, you may not spend much time if any at home and then venture out on your own at some point, find a place to call YOUR home and just know that other "place" is there for when you want to visit... and you may visit once in a while or never visit at all... it never really was home to you so you could care less.

Or like many others, you may venture out, move from city to city, house to house and never be satisfied so you come back home and that puts a huge smile on your face for the rest of your days.

OR you have that place you grew up in that you spend holidays in and that's HOME, you have a tiny low-rent apartment in the West coast, a pricy upscale Manhattan condo and a girlfriend's place you crash in once in a while which are all also HOME!
 
#71
DenisKrestsov said:
With all these new bass companies with revolutionary technology and building going into their basses in your opinion is your avarage Fender bass still the best bass because they have managed to stand the test of time?

Im my opinion yes, I love my Fenders, my Ibanez was great but it was just more of a toy.

Give me some opinions people!
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Of course there is no BEST bass, just best to the player in question. That said, Fender has made a living selling basically the same J and same P for 1,000,000 years and counting (I realize there's lot of others too). They are doing something right, be it marketing, distribution, tone, feel, weight, any or all of the above.
 
#73
Owning Fenders, Squiers and Ibanezezzes all, I feel I can add a small amount to the furor.

I love all my basses - not a turkey in the murder*, so I may be somewhat euphoric on my evaluations.

My Ibanez SR500 and AEB120E are great - almost boutique in appearances and playability - but I'd never buy a boutique so that may be an conflictual statement.

The Fenders - include two Js, one Active the other passive plus an Affinity Squier P-bass that is now really a front-line player - and even though I originally hated that one Affinity-Squier product for years and years - I finally realized it was a combo of ME and a bad setup that made it so. My dislike for Fenders was sorely misplaced.

I play quite a few different musical styles (and although I didn't want to ever admit it - some head-bangers too) I find they can all fit well and appropriately for most any venue.

BUT - the Fenders are generally what I take to play outside of my home.

Why? The Ibanezezzes are just too pretty and I feel they aren't really gigging instruments anyway. Not that they are weak - but they are subject to damage a lot easier I feel.

Howcome? I keep my gear pristine and would not like to have anything happen to any of them - but the Fenders just seem so much more robust and up to travel and bandstand work more so than the Ibanezezzes.

Results? I get a Brain-O when I play the SR or the AEB, and that's just as fresh of a feeling today as it was when I bought them.

The Fenders though - they get the recognition and admiring looks and they are just generally more accepted in most musical circles and especially by sound engineers - since they know what to expect from a Fender and they have had a lot of experience mixing them into the tracks.

I don't understand buying a real boutique instrument at all - even though I could well afford one - it just doesn't float my boat. I'd keep a boutique in a glass case and keep a paper towel dispenser alongside it to wipe off the drool. But play one? Nope - not me.

I greatly admire basses by other manufacturers - even that Rickenbacker that I slowly strip-teased to you all - but that's as far as I will get to ever wanting one - just looking at them. I find I am usually dry-mouthed when I see them though (ie: not drooling).

So - in the end - Fenders are generally misunderstood if you don't like them and there's so many variables to why you aren't fit for the instrument - not the other way around I feel.

* Murder = a group of crows.
 
#74
SurferJoe46 said:
The Fenders though - they get the recognition and admiring looks and they are just generally more accepted in most musical circles and especially by sound engineers - since they know what to expect from a Fender and they have had a lot of experience mixing them into the tracks.

So - in the end - Fenders are generally misunderstood if you don't like them and there's so many variables to why you aren't fit for the instrument - not the other way around I feel.
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If you are a good engineer you should be able to make mix any bass. If I bring my Sadowsky in and you can't get a good sound, I need another engineer.

Because I don't care for Fender's it's MY fault? Please explain. You find a bass that fit's you, not the other way around...IMO.
 
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#78
spade2you said:
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#79
Fender isn't the first but Leo had a very good idea to make it the icon of today.

For me ??? nah I don't like at all. To many compagny have something looking the same, not enough frets, solid color ( man I don't want something made of wood look like a car or something in plastic ).

I think Ibanez, Carvin, Warwick, Spector etc or more on something.

Sometime I really don't get why everyone is so stuck in the past. If we live in the past we can't go foward.

And it is not because Fender is still around that they are the best.
 
#80
Personally I think Phil Kubicki has the best out there, however with his 40+ years at Fender that almost counts as a Fender.

For the pure idea of it all, four of the best all-time basses, the Precision, the Jazz, Stingray and L2000, all came from Leo's hand. To me, the only others who come close are Ned Steinberger, Phil and Roger Sadowsky.
 

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