oh stop with the nazi stuff. yes, it was a horrible period in history, but it doesn't make someone a nazi to use the phrase "final solution." grow up.
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Final solution to soundmen
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You're absolutely right.
It makes them criminally insensitive when used toward a group of people because of it's history, nevertheless.
i caqn't quite dis the soundman like that. on our gigs, the soundman is the first in and the last out and clearly has the longest day of any of us (and has a paycheck to match). but we don't own a pa and we either use house stuff or hire out. if you're in a band and everyone helps set up the pa/lights with the soundman, then i think what craig s said is legit. being a good soundman isn't easy, but after everything's set up it's not nearly as strenuous as singing and playing.
Of course using the term "final solution" does not make someone a Nazi, but because of what this term implies it is important to be sensitive to the strong meaning it has for many people.
Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies
i read nazi somwhere wich meens this rule has come into play
Godwin's Law is often cited in online discussions as a deterrent against the use of arguments in the widespread reductio ad Hitlerum form. The rule does not make any statement about whether any particular reference or comparison to Adolf Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that the likelihood of such a reference or comparison arising increases as the discussion progresses. It is precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued[4] that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact.
i read nazi somwhere wich meens this rule has come into play
Godwin's Law is often cited in online discussions as a deterrent against the use of arguments in the widespread reductio ad Hitlerum form. The rule does not make any statement about whether any particular reference or comparison to Adolf Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that the likelihood of such a reference or comparison arising increases as the discussion progresses. It is precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued[4] that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact.
Should I start complaining about people's use of the term to "dig in" because of it's connection to the millions of people that have died in trench warfare?
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OP, go do some home recordings with your band. Without changing any effects or anything, really listen to the sound that's coming out. How audible are you? You all probably need a tone change.
In the studio, we discovered that both of my guitarists had way too much going on in the low-end and a lot of my bass and mids suffered because of it. I asked my guitarists to turn down the bass in their tones (that's what I'm for) and then I used a spectrum analyzer to quickly figure out which frequencies I needed to boost so that I could be audible and fill the spectrum without stepping on toes.
Our live sound has drastically improved, and if the FOH is bad, it's beyond our control.
Douchey thing for him to say outright, but it may not be without merit.
In the studio, we discovered that both of my guitarists had way too much going on in the low-end and a lot of my bass and mids suffered because of it. I asked my guitarists to turn down the bass in their tones (that's what I'm for) and then I used a spectrum analyzer to quickly figure out which frequencies I needed to boost so that I could be audible and fill the spectrum without stepping on toes.
Our live sound has drastically improved, and if the FOH is bad, it's beyond our control.
Douchey thing for him to say outright, but it may not be without merit.
ya, and then he compounds it by calling them all flakes or drug addicts. i think modulusman is going for some prize, to be quite honest
You & your band can play phenomenally, with absolutely orgasmic tones and still have an incompetent board operator/engineer make it sound horrible(i prefer not to use the term "sound man/guy" as they do NOT create any sound
)....Their only function is to assist you in sounding good, period. A function which most definitely does NOT include telling musicians that they don't know what their instrument and/or music should sound like !
Good board ops will not exhibit any "IKE" tendencies, GREAT ones are proactive and will ask you what you want/need and see that you get it.
Sounds just like TimmyP, except he's only heard 2 guys with exceptional bass tone.
The first thing I thought when I saw the post, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to open the thread. Once again our schools have failed us
My band often works with a greta soundguy, and thats only cuz I most often run our own sound, through our own PA. Even if there is a sound guy provided I most often prefer to bring my own stuff, unless I know the venues system and/or soundguy.
Yes, and each of those 35+ songs have different dynamics and could require slightly altered levels for each instrument depending on the song. When I run sound I dont just soundcheck levels and leave them there, Im constantly adjusting the board to maximize the sound for each song.
i almost always bring an amp and i know how to dial in my sound. if the sound guy is a gent i'll totally work with him and enjoy the company. if not, i send him an XLR feed and ignore.
When you have to haul all the gear and set up an hour before the show, stay through an entire night (that cold be anywhere from 6-8 hours) break down all that gear before you leave, yes it can be. Not to mention having to sit through and try and make some really bad bands sound good, it can be very strenuous. And then you have musicians who sometimes don't know what theyre talking about try and order you around, it can be annnoying as well. A lot harder than just playing a few sets for sure.
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