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First time builder...Grizzly #1

cyclopsbookworm

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Nov 13, 2012
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Hey Luthiers. I just finished my very first build and wanted to show you guys. Well, I'm 95% done really...still have some final adjustments. I'm calling it the Oso Grizzly (TM, lol). I'm pretty proud of it. Keep in mind I have no access to a shop and did this entirely with hand tools and without any jigs or templates (aside from pickup templates).



Specs:
  • Oso Grizzly
  • Wenge one-piece neck-thru
  • Figured cherry side wings, partially chambered
  • book-matched flame maple top and headstock face
  • big leaf maple rear stripe
  • figured katalox fingerboard, epoxy coated
  • JE Moser alcohol anilene wood dye color....flemesh brown oak, deep red mahogany, medium maple, and colortone amber liquid stain
  • Lacquer finish over shellac grain fill undercoat.
  • dual-action truss rod
  • titanium stiffening rods
  • 16" neck radius
  • 1 3/4" nut
  • 34.25" scale
  • 16.5 mm spacing at bridge
  • luminlay luminescent side dots, green rod
  • delano MC5FE bridge pickup, JMVC5 FE neck pickup
  • Passive harness with DPDT switch for series, single, parallel operation, MM pickup only
  • No blend on the electronics....either neck pickup run or bridge pickup solo.
  • ETS Transmission bridge
  • Switchcraft barrel jack
  • Dunlop straplocks.
  • Hipshot ultralite tuning machines
  • Warwick just a nut 5S
  • 9.8 pounds
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I made about a bunch of rookie mistakes:

  • I swore the wenge I ordered was 8/4 48" long. I ordered it a few years ago and set it aside. Once I started the build, I realized it was only 46" This mistake alone accounts for the majority of the problems I had later on
  • The shorter length meant I had to inch up the body on the neck, which makes the final 2 frets inaccessible to my short fingers.
  • When I cut the neck, being a dummy, I decided to correct the cut so I could glue the wings on parallel to the neck. Of course, I made a mistake on this cut and had to plane down the bass side to get it straight. This made the neck 1/32 too narrow at the nut and 3/16 too narrow at the neck heel.
  • Since I had to narrow the spacing to correct the above mistake, I had to stretch out the scale to 34.25....as far as my neck would allow.
  • The cut mistake also made the truss rod ever so slightly out of center...not a huge deal as the neck is so thick the truss barely moves the solid wenge, but it's still an error.
  • I cut the wrong piece of the wing for the upper horn, which made the piece for the lower horn a bit too narrow, and cramped the electronics cavity a bit. Still got it in there, but it was tighter than I would have liked.
  • I didn't cut and drill any dowels to align the side wings when I glued them, so they didn't sit at the exact angle I wanted. This made the bridge higher than I wanted and I had to sand the body down to lower the string height.
  • I didn't get the wings 100% shaped before I glued them on, then had to go back and reshape them. During that process, I took a chunk out of the fingerboard that I had to fill with epoxy.
  • The headstock was shaped after everything was glued together and cut. This was a mistake because when I started shaping it, it revealed a split in the wood that I had to cut out. This, along with the shorter than expected plank of wenge, made the headstock unusually small and off-center. Because of this, I couldn't properly align the tuning machines. So in order to get them to sit right, I shaped that funky string retainer out of round bronze rod, soldered onto flat rectangular brass rods. It works ok, but could have been avoided.
  • I mis-measured the screw holes for the bridge. Didn't notice until it was almost done. I had to move the bridge up 1/2", which made the bridge pickup 1/2" too close to the bridge.
  • I made some rookie mistakes in the finish, but I'm actually ok with that.
 
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I should mention that despite all the problems, this bass plays and sounds great. I made the neck fairly thick because I have carpal tunnel that acts up with narrower and thinner necks, and I have virtually no pain with this neck. It's a tad harder to play and slightly slower than an ultra thin neck, but not much and I can play much longer before having any pain.
 
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Thanks. I was pretty determined to get through it. I'm just happy it plays well and turned out more or less how I wanted.

That, my friend, is all that matters, and that is enough to declare this a success! Congratulations, very nice first build!
 
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I have a suggestion, then I need you to make me follow my own advice. . . .instead of your long list of bullet points under the heading mistakes (which only YOU know most of), post the picture of the finished products and mention the mistakes later maybe. Here is why, I by the time I got to the picture, I expected to see something VASTLY different than the beautiful, exceptional, unique piece of art posted there. Boiled down to a couple of words. . . .results are what matters and you got some stunning results. NOW, for my benefit (and others) thanks for sharing what you would have done differently because we might all learn from that.
The finished product is awesome. I am intrigued by your pick up setting! What was your thought process going into that? What kind of tone versatility were you seeking and did you achieve it?

Please get attention for your hand issues, if you have not already. There are plenty of remedies which can be offered by a good certified hand therapist which can be as simple as stretching and strengthening exercises. I work with a hand therapist and he too has had issues while learning to play 6 sting acoustic. He found that altering his own form on the fret board/neck and stretching made him a better, more comfortable/safer player!!

Great work if that is build #1 you have set a really high standard for #2!!
Congrats and regards,
Brent
 
I have a suggestion, then I need you to make me follow my own advice. . . .instead of your long list of bullet points under the heading mistakes (which only YOU know most of), post the picture of the finished products and mention the mistakes later maybe. Here is why, I by the time I got to the picture, I expected to see something VASTLY different than the beautiful, exceptional, unique piece of art posted there. Boiled down to a couple of words. . . .results are what matters and you got some stunning results. NOW, for my benefit (and others) thanks for sharing what you would have done differently because we might all learn from that.
The finished product is awesome.

Thanks, I'll consider that. I was just nervous it would get torn apart by t-rue and tested luthiers. I am open to suggestion though.


I am intrigued by your pick up setting! What was your thought process going into that? What kind of tone versatility were you seeking and did you achieve it?

Please get attention for your hand issues, if you have not already. There are plenty of remedies which can be offered by a good certified hand therapist which can be as simple as stretching and strengthening exercises. I work with a hand therapist and he too has had issues while learning to play 6 sting acoustic. He found that altering his own form on the fret board/neck and stretching made him a better, more comfortable/safer player!!

Great work if that is build #1 you have set a really high standard for #2!!
Congrats and regards,
Brent

The pickup setting was simple, I never seem to blend pickups on any bass I've ever owned. I've always solo'd the neck or bridge then adjusted tone to taste. When I ordered the harness, the builder (buzzards) they said to do the setup I wanted I wouldn't be able to blend. Otherwise I should remove the dpdt. Not a problem for me, as I really wanted to be able to run the musicman in series and single coil for a fat MM sound or a more cutting single sound. Paired with the jazz neck, this bass is really all over the map tonally, which is what I wanted.

As for the position, I screwed up the musicman position...meant to have it 1/2" higher as mentioned above. It makes the pickup hotter than I would have wanted and restricts access to bridge adjustment. I've been coping with it though. The angle of the neck pickup is so I can simply order a 19mm jazz pickup if I decide to go another way aside from the delanos. That might yet happen so I wanted to leave that option open, and having a 19mm spaced jazz gives me the pick of the litter when it comes to that pickup without custom ordering a 17.5 mm.

And the carpal tunnel is not too bad unless I've been doing tile. A precision neck is fine, but this separates my thumb enough so that I have virtually no pain at all. Can't afford treatment at this moment.

Thanks for the kind words! I'm pretty proud of it.
 
Also with the shielding job I did, the single coils are very close to dead quiet if I'm being dead quiet. The bass is very responsive...almost too responsive at times. That may cause me to go from the hotter delanos to something more vintage like a bartolini set down the road, but it's not yet a deal breaker for me. I'm going to try new strings first and take it from there. I put a scrap set of rotosounds that I really didn't like before. Since I had to put them on and took them off a number of times, I didn't want to use a brand new set of strings until I had it mostly dialed in. I'm really not a fan of Rotosounds. For my style of playing they have a bit too muddy of a sound. My tomastics should come in within a few days and I'll see what those do for it.
 
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