Double Bass Fishman Dual Parametric DI

[DDownbeat]

Note that I just posted a Fishman Dual Parametric DI for sale in the classifieds.

 

[craigie]

I don’t have experience with any of these pedals, but I’d still like to comment lol.

I recently acquired a Soundcraft ui12 mixer which has four band fully parametric EQ with HPF on every channel. I love love love the fully parametric EQ. For example I gave a very wide Q bass boost which gives a very full sound with HPF to simulate a bass cabinet and a narrower Q cut somewhere around 200-400 hz I think. That cut sounds awesome for both electric and upright. If you are mixing a direct signal and a mic signal the phase invert may be very useful if your mixer doesn’t have one. I saw an old Eden WT400 in store one time and was amazed at the features it had but felt I didn’t need it.
It’s hard to know how things will sound and interact with the rest of your signal path until you do it.

 

[Alain Bass]

Thank’s for your input about what brings a para eq.
As you said:
« It’s hard to know how things will sound and interact with the rest of your signal path until you do it »
I stopped for the moment my research on a para eq because I never had one, so I can’t imagine what it will bring to my sound , and I don’t want to pay for another box that may be gonna stay at home or be used just sometimes.
My sound is quite good for the moment, the only para eq. I know is on my Headway 1, and I don’t use it because it change the sound of my bass.
First, I need to find somebody who has a para eq, to test it and see if it helps me in getting my sound.
Mickael Eisenman ’S option: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
is something to follow: smaller than the Fishmann, available, probably good clean sound, and 3 bands.
To follow.

 

[DoubleMIDI]

Be warned, there are semi-parametric EQ (missing the Q/bandwidth control, so they are fixed for that parameter) and full-parametric EQ (with frequency, Q/bandwidth and boost/cut).
You should get a fully parametric EQ. Try it out at home, start with a high Q/narrow bandwidth and a high boost to find unpleasant frequencies, find the middle of that range, cut them and lower the Q/widen the bandwidth until the unpleasant stuff has gone, then adjust the cut to as less as possible to keep a good sound.

Write the parameters down. You won't have time on a sound check to fiddle with these knobs until you are satisfied.
Should work with piezo resonances as well as with bowing noise (with a different frequency range).

Don't use EQ on resonance of a single string, since all strings (also those without resonances) will be affected. Better try a non-electronic solution by changes in your instrument in that case.

 

[Alain Bass]

Thank’s for your advice on the directions for use a Para Eq.
On my Headway 1 (the old model, the only Para I never used), there is the Q and Freq. but not the level, and one bandwidth.
and when ON, it has a tendency to change the sound of my bass, in a let’ say more Fretless sound than the natural sound of a double bass.
This is not a complet Para EQ.
I keep you advice in mind the day I could try a Para EQ.

 

[DoubleMIDI]

Bandwidth and Q are basically the same thing, but bandwidth is independent of the frequency setting and Q adapts depending on the selected frequency (constant musical interval, not frequency width).

A parametric EQ without a cut/boost or level does not make much sense. A fixed value of zero does nothing and any other value gives either a fixed amount of boost or cut. Not very useful.

I'm not familiar enough with the Headway preamps to give any hints, you might have a look at the manual instead.

 

[Povl Carstensen]

Perhaps it is a notch filter with a fixed "dip"? Well, I don't know..

 

[Fran Diaz]

Thank’s for your advice on the directions for use a Para Eq.
On my Headway 1 (the old model, the only Para I never used), there is the Q and Freq. but not the level, and one bandwidth.
and when ON, it has a tendency to change the sound of my bass, in a let’ say more Fretless sound than the natural sound of a double bass.
This is not a complet Para EQ.
I keep you advice in mind the day I could try a Para EQ.

That's a notch filter, not a parametric eq. Its mission is to remove a problematic frequency (feedback).

 

[Alain Bass]

Yes, you're right. It's a Notch Filter

 

[massimo]

Yes, you're right. It's a Notch Filter

You have a PM if you want to try the Fishman Dual Parametric...