Flanger /chorus/ or multi voice pitch delay for synth bass board

[DudeManWhat]

Hey Hey, so I am looking for something to thicken and or add some different textures detuned oscillator effects and or movement to some of synthy sounds I get from stacking pedals on my bass board. I've been considering a few different kinds of effects boxes:
•chorus
●Malekko Thicken
● Jam Waterfall
●Eqd Sea Machine

•flanger/chorus:
● Dreadbox Komorebi
●Moog mf flange

• multi voice pitch delay:
●Meris Hedra (sorta hesitant about the complex workflow)
●Malekko Polyamorator

•And of course the wackadoo whatever it is that is:
●Death By Audio's Space Bender

My current signal chain is as follows
Current chain

•Fuzzrocious Croak (dual filtered fuzz)>
•Mantic Thug (bass booster/dirtyboost)>
•MXR Vintage Bass Octave (Analog Octaver)>
•DOD Meatbox (Sub) >
•Sentient Sonic Machines Greenseer (Brassmaster Fuzz)>
•Pigtronix Mothership 2 (Dual Oscillator Synth)>
•EQD Spatial Delivery (Envelope Filter/sample and hold)>
•Mojohand Fx Mister-O (6 stage phaser)
•Fairfield Circuitry Randy's Revenge (Ring Modulator)>
•Dr.Scientist Dusk (Resonant Lpf/envelope/multiple wave LFO)>
•Caroline Meteore (crazy Reverb)>
•Death By Audio Echo Dream ii (crazy Modulated Delay)>
•Artisanal Effects Double Phaser (lovetone doppelganger clone)
•Chase Tone Secret Preamp (ep3 style boost)

Whatever I end up getting will most likely be sitting between the Fairfield Randy's Revenge and the Dr Scientist Dusk. I don't mind tweaking around with stuff and im not at completely losing interest with secondary functionality on gear. But steep learning curves or anything really requiring midi or computer and app based sound sculpting for me to find sounds i actually want to use ie source audio, tc toneprint, hx stomp, helix etc are not my style at all. I like knobs and faders. Anyone that has any input or suggestions for any one of these or other pedals that I should be considering I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks All, STAY RAD!

 

[TOOL460002]

Red Panda Raster 2 does delay pitch shifting to ring mod to some modulation. I never really used the MIDI when I had it, and there are 5 presets on the pedal. Pretty easy to tame. It's one of those pedals I wouldn't rule out buying again.

 

[GMC]

Somthing like a H9/H90 will offer you all that you are looking for. I've heard some great chorus / detuned delay chorus recently from the Source Audio C4 that have really impressed me. But you will have to find those patches and tweek them to your needs.
I use a Source Audio Lunar for most of my modulation needs. I use a few from my H9 occasionally too.
Any modulation on bass is going to thin down your signal..it's not the pedal..it's the type of effect that's the cause. So finding a modulation pedal that has a lot ofbass freindly EQ / mixing options is important.
The SA Lunar has a 4 band fully parametric EQ under the hood and it's also got a cool "bass retain" control that is a low end bass mixer, effectively allowing the modulation to only affect the higher frequencies.
The problem with a lot of modulation pedals with a wet / dry mixer is that it reduces the amount of wetness you can achive while retaining the bass end. As bassists, we need a lot of modulation wetness. A lot more than say a guitarist would use.

 

[TOOL460002]

Also, while I've never used a Chase Bliss Thermae nor Reverse Mode C, they seem to be multi-voice delays. A ZOIA is way more work than you seem to want, but 12mo ago I didn't know much about modular synths. I just bought the ZOIA for the Empress algorithms. The online community has so many patches and video walk-throughs. For something specific like multiple voices and delay, where you might want to filter each voice differently or process them in non-standsrd ways, well, I would be surprised if anything can do that more easily. The Meris LVX looks neat. Bet that could do it.

 

[DudeManWhat]

Also, while I've never used a Chase Bliss Thermae nor Reverse Mode C, they seem to be multi-voice delays. A ZOIA is way more work than you seem to want, but 12mo ago I didn't know much about modular synths. I just bought the ZOIA for the Empress algorithms. The online community has so many patches and video walk-throughs. For something specific like multiple voices and delay, where you might want to filter each voice differently or process them in non-standsrd ways, well, I would be surprised if anything can do that more easily. The Meris LVX looks neat. Bet that could do it.

Yeah I've considered the zoia before, I have a couple of semimodular synths, but honestly it's a tactile thing with me. Menu diving would be a major hiccups in my current workflow I already do quite a bit of parallel processing with another member of the project that I am currently in (I send a clean di signal to him that goes to his mixer, as well as my sub signals from the mothership, and the meatbox. He has a digitakt a hog2, and a bunch of effects as well )so I don't want to add another insanely deep box.

 

[DudeManWhat]

Somthing like a H9/H90 will offer you all that you are looking for. I've heard some great chorus / detuned delay chorus recently from the Source Audio C4 that have really impressed me. But you will have to find those patches and tweek them to your needs.
I use a Source Audio Lunar for most of my modulation needs. I use a few from my H9 occasionally too.
Any modulation on bass is going to thin down your signal..it's not the pedal..it's the type of effect that's the cause. So finding a modulation pedal that has a lot ofbass freindly EQ / mixing options is important.
The SA Lunar has a 4 band fully parametric EQ under the hood and it's also got a cool "bass retain" control that is a low end bass mixer, effectively allowing the modulation to only affect the higher frequencies.
The problem with a lot of modulation pedals with a wet / dry mixer is that it reduces the amount of wetness you can achive while retaining the bass end. As bassists, we need a lot of modulation wetness. A lot more than say a guitarist would use.

Yeah menu diving is not my thing even though sa and eventide make some of the best sounding stuff I have heard, I need the knobs. Maybe it's crazy but it's just how I work best.

 

[TOOL460002]

Yeah I've considered the zoia before, I have a couple of semimodular synths, but honestly it's a tactile thing with me. Menu diving would be a major hiccups in my current workflow I already do quite a bit of parallel processing with another member of the project that I am currently in (I send a clean di signal to him that goes to his mixer, as well as my sub signals from the mothership, and the meatbox. He has a digitakt a hog2, and a bunch of effects as well )so I don't want to add another insanely deep box.

I feel ya. It is a tactile thing for me in the exact opposite way in that I have spent very little time with modular outside of the ZOIA (Reason since 3.0, but that's not the same), so it feels normal. If you ever do, my only advice is to strap a battery pack to it, get a merger, and use it with headphones. You can throw on tutorials or patch walk-throughs on a screen and "play along" more easily.

It'll be interesting to see where you end up going with this search. It's weird, synthy, and specific. 3/3. Good luck and I'll be lurking/following.

 

[Veldar]

I do this with a boss ps-3, literally detuning my post oc-2 signal

 

[Jakeman]

Might want to take a look at the Iron Ether Polytope and Arching Prisms.

 

[DudeManWhat]

Might want to take a look at the Iron Ether Polytope and Arching Prisms.

I would love to score a polytope, but DAAAAMN the resale prices for IE stuff is absolutely nuts.