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Flatwound Epiphany

Everyone should want mids.....thats how your are heard playing live.

I swear to god, if one more sound guy refuses to touch his smiley face thats been in place since 1963, im gonna go postal.

I swear to god if one more sound guy makes me sound like a boxy honk machine with tone like Billy Sheehan, Steve Harris, Lemmy, I'm gonna put a big old notch in the eq I send him. If I wanted to sound like a guitar I'd play one. Why do I have to love the honkey harsh sound everyone is in love with these days?

I want some mids, but I pretty much can't stand boxy mids. Like 500hz. Or harsh upper mids, like 800hz-1.6hz. any sound guy can crank the mids and get bass to cut through.
 
I'm trapped in the 80s in that I think rounds are for bass guitar and flats are for upright. Gotta have that zing!

HOWEVER in the last year I've switched over to flats on my fretless BGs, and.... yep, not going back to rounds on them!

And since I basically never play my fretted basses, I guess you could say I'm a convert, too.:woot:
 
I prefer flats nearly all the time. I like both flats and rounds when I'm playing with my fingers, but when I'm playing with a pick, I just can't stand the scratchy Duff McKagan sound. I like it when Duff does it, or any number of rock and punk bassists. But for me, I want punch across the string, and I want click. That's just how I feel most comfortable with my sound.

Playing the kind of music that I do, with a lot of loud, distorted guitars, I find that a lot of the width and grind of round wounds disappears when the guitars come in. The flats sound more similar whatever the other instruments are doing. You can hear more of them because they're not getting ground up with the guitars. Obviously I'm in the minority of people playing punk and hard rock who feel that way. If I really want to be heard, I'll play my parts P with GHS Precision Flats, and the mids and attack will stick out. If I want my bass to sound more like a standard rock bass, I'll play my PJ with 9050s, and what you can hear after the guitars come in is pretty close to what you'd hear anyway.
 
For about half of my bass career I played rounds exclusively. There was a sound I was after and I even had a recorded sample of it (made by someone else) but I could never achieve it on my own. When I would play in the studio I would bring in this audio sample in and say "can you make my bass sound like this?" and the engineer would always say "yes" but it never came out that way. Then one day, I was at Norms Rare Guitars in LA and there was this '58 P bass with flats. I played it unplugged at first and a light went off in my head, " this could be the one"! When I plugged it in it was exactly the sound I was hearing in my head. This was about 15 years ago and that '58 P was $9000.00.
There was no way I could afford that kind of money but playing that bass made me think about flatwound strings.
I'd never really considered it before. I've tried may brands and the Low Tension Flat Labellas get me as close to that sound as I've ever come. I still have a few basses with rounds but when it's up to me I mostly play a bass with flat wounds.
 
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Wait until you try the T.I. Jazz Flats. There is nothing like them and they last forever, which is good because they are expensive (but well worth it!).

I play flats and rounds, and for the right bass, the T.I.s are beyond amazing. I have them on my Mustang P/J and a Peavey Fury and a Fender Jazz.
They sing well with these. I keep trying to replace them with other flats or rounds, and always go back to them on those basses.