Flatwound strings: thump vs punch

[Phaidrus]

As stated in the title, which flatwound strings excel in thump and which in punch?

And are either thump and/or punch prone to boominess?

But perhaps to start with, are thump and punch really two different qualities?

Thank you for your input fellow TBers.

 

[Yahboy]

Mt personal opinion is, on Pbass, classic old school flatwound sound thump when finger gently pluck between neck and pickup area, mute foam add to get better woodist thump ; pluck with little dig in or aggressive above pickup or more forward to bridge side could sound punch , especially those string hit the fret wires.
Aggressive pick striking like Matt Freeman technique also produce in your face Growl-punch too.

Regard the boominess thing, notable when fully roll back the Pbass tone knob (with .1uf cap) , but mute foam do help shortern the boominess transform to "Thump" thing. Or, dial back Amp bass EQ knob and increase both MID and Treble knob.

My suggestion is , spend some money on different type of flatwound and start the journey. Your ear will tell you which bass tone you liking or looking for.

Does this clip sound punch for you ?


This sound thump ?


Hope help

 

[Phaidrus]

Mt personal opinion is, on Pbass, classic old school flatwound sound thump when finger gently pluck between neck and pickup area, mute foam add to get better woodist thump ; pluck with little dig in or aggressive above pickup or more forward to bridge side could sound punch , especially those string hit the fret wires.
Aggressive pick striking like Matt Freeman technique also produce in your face Growl-punch too.

Regard the boominess thing, notable when fully roll back the Pbass tone knob (with .1uf cap) , but mute foam do help shortern the boominess transform to "Thump" thing. Or, dial back Amp bass EQ knob and increase both MID and Treble knob.

My suggestion is , spend some money on different type of flatwound and start the journey. Your ear will tell you which bass tone you liking or looking for.

Does this clip sound punch for you ?


This sound thump ?


Hope help

Thanks for replying. Yes, the first clip (JF344) sounds like punch while the second clip (LTF4A) like thump. It is also my experience that where one plucks can shift the tone from thump (near neck) to punch (near bridge), which is also the case with the LaBella 760FS currently on my Pbass. I've moded this 2008 Am. Std. Pbass with PV63 pickup and .082uf cap, so when tone knob is rolled off and I play near the neck I get boominess with some notes on the E string. This is attenuated when rolling off the lows on the amp.

My thread question is asking whether there are certain flatwound sets that are intrinsically thumpy or punchy. I've tried a few so far and found that they all have their pros and cons. I should in fact get myself a couple more Pbasses to have them strung with different sets of flats.

 

[Yahboy]

Thanks for replying. Yes, the first clip (JF344) sounds like punch while the second clip (LTF4A) like thump. It is also my experience that where one plucks can shift the tone from thump (near neck) to punch (near bridge), which is also the case with the LaBella 760FS currently on my Pbass. I've moded this 2008 Am. Std. Pbass with PV63 pickup and .082uf cap, so when tone knob is rolled off and I play near the neck I get boominess with some notes on the E string. This is attenuated when rolling off the lows on the amp.

My thread question is asking whether there are certain flatwound sets that are intrinsically thumpy or punchy. I've tried a few so far and found that they all have their pros and cons. I should in fact get myself a couple more Pbasses to have them strung with different sets of flats.

I prefer 760 match with Fender Ori 60 pup or others std wounding P pup. Roll back tone with PV63 pup possible sound boomy/muddy/lack clarity for someone. Thats the reason i use Ti flat on my previous CIC Squier CV60P which has PV63 and .068/.1uf cap. I also found the PV63P sound great with 7250 stock roundwound bass string too.

Agree that get more pbass for vary flawound tone experience from old school to modern tone.

 

[Phaidrus]

I prefer 760 match with Fender Ori 60 pup or others std wounding P pup. Roll back tone with PV63 pup possible sound boomy/muddy/lack clarity for someone. Thats the reason i use Ti flat on my previous CIC Squier CV60P which has PV63 and .068/.1uf cap. I also found the PV63P sound great with 7250 stock roundwound bass string too.

Agree that get more pbass for vary flawound tone experience from old school to modern tone.

Interesting observations. I've installed an Original 62 pickup in my other Pbass, which is now strung with Rotosound RB 45 nps rounds and the combination sounds really good. Lively, and punchy and modern.

 

[4StringDave]

I'd say Fender 9050s are of the "punchy" variety