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Flying Drones are becoming a life threatening problem here in California.

#23
4Mal said:
I watched the fireman shoot the drone down... What a tool. Drone was in no way interfering with most of the fire guys standing around... Hope the owner collected on it...
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Some of those drones make a lot of noise, that is why the fireman looked skyward and even knew it was there. The noise could have been interfering with the fireman's verbal communications to each other which is not good when you are fighting a house fire. Just sayin.
 
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Stewie26 said:
Some of those drones make a lot of noise, that is why the fireman looked skyward and even new it was there. The noise could have been interfering with the fireman's verbal communications to each other which is not good when you are fighting a house fire. Just sayin.
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...and some of them don't... Depends a lot on the angle of attack of the blade... Big payload, big noise while hovering. Big being relative of course... A go-pro is in not a stretch payload for a medium quad... And you'll note in the video that essentially the fire is over. Most of the crew is basically resting...

That amount of noise would be barely noticible on a fire scene... I'm up close and familiar with unmanned ariel systems. I work in the industry although on larger birds. Yeah, I'm pro- unmanned Ariel vehicle applications. An no, I really don't care if you have a backyard still..

After watching the video, my take is that crew did not want to be seen standing around and... Give he could nail the copter with a hose - the copter de facto was within FAA regs (400 feet as long as he is outside the airspace limitations of an airport... Or the White House of course... the fireman was being a jerk and wasted someone else's property. That would be willful destruction ... What the guy flying the drone did was very little different from a cell phone video of a traffic stop.

Not saying that you aren't within your rights to drop a bird that is facilitating an invasion of privacy - if that happens- I say drop it! But ... the crew fighting the fire are public employees, doing a job and have no expectation of a right to privacy while performing their job function. Is it a personal drone or the channel 5 'film at 11' chopper ? Can't douse that one with a hose... Sorry, no. Fireman being a jerk and willfully destroying an other person's property....

That fireman just created an opportunity for career counseling... And a headache for the fire chief and town/city manager... Your tax dollars at work.
 
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4Mal said:
You'll note in the video that essentially the fire is over. Most of the crew is basically resting...

That amount of noise would be barely noticible on a fire scene... I'm up close and familiar with drones. Work in the industry although on much larger birds. My take is that crew did not want to be seen standing around and... Give he could nail the copter with a hose - the copter de facto was within FAA regs as long as he is outside the airspace limitations of an airport... Or the White House of course... My take on it is that the fireman was being a jerk and wasted someone else's property. What the guy flying the drone did was very little different from a cell phone video of a traffic stop.

Not saying that you aren't within your rights to drop a bird that is facilitating an invasion of privacy - that happens- I say drop it! But ... the crew fighting the fire are public employees, doing a job and should have 0 expectation of a right to privacy while performing their job function.

My take is that the fireman just created an opportunity for career counseling...
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Good reply.
 
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Stewie26 said:
Here in California our fire season has begun. We have some huge fires going on right now and the fire fighting air tankers had to be grounded for three hours because a couple of idiots were flying their drones over the fire so they could get some good video shots. Being a pilot myself, I can the understand the concern of having a drone come crashing thru the front windscreen and taking the aircraft down. The law making authorities are way behind the technology on regulating these hazards. Like with other things, I am sure they will react after a drone takes an airliner down when on final approach to land and there are plenty of bodies around. . Anyway, that's my rant for today.
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It's California. What do you expect?
 
#30
If I was the homeowner and even once one of the firefighters had to say "Wait, what, I didn't hear you over that stupid drone" then it was justifiable. I wasn't there, can't pass any judgement.

I've seen a bunch flying around and they have all been very loud. Where I go trail running I've told the one guy from a start up whiskey company that if it goes down and starts a fire I'll be the first to tell the firefighters and police that he was flying it over a section that was fenced off to allow for vegetation re-growth (the hiking/running path is supposed to contain all the traffic). Let's start a fire in a park that burned 8 years ago and took 300+ houses with it, brilliant. They use it for marketing and had no idea what they were doing. How about a nice football or baseball field instead?

I'm not against drones, I'm against idiots with drones.
 
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Oddly, in the story they call it a helicopter several times. Pretty sure they meant drone but it's curious. I'd be surprised a heli pilot did something so stupid. 20 feet? The wingtip vortex from the jet should have downed it, whatever it was. Wonder if they found it but won't say.
 
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Stewie26 said:
Here in California our fire season has begun. We have some huge fires going on right now and the fire fighting air tankers had to be grounded for three hours because a couple of idiots were flying their drones over the fire so they could get some good video shots. Being a pilot myself, I can the understand the concern of having a drone come crashing thru the front windscreen and taking the aircraft down. The law making authorities are way behind the technology on regulating these hazards. Like with other things, I am sure they will react after a drone takes an airliner down when on final approach to land and there are plenty of bodies around. . Anyway, that's my rant for today.
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They could try to get an old crop duster with a drone net to catch or smush them.
They being fire fighters or police department.
 
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Just to give an idea of the damage a single bird can do to a plane. Drones have even a higher potential for damage as they are approved for civilian ownership and operations to over 50 lbs.
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Thought some of ya'll might be interested in this.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...9I0CbtPmgAB5_2_o2hLLq9g&bvm=bv.96783405,d.eXY

And with Redstone up north, there is a lot of "official" drone activity around these parts. There's a place just north of Montgomery and if you are driving on I-65 and get lucky as you pass through, you might catch 3 or 4 airplanes with no windows in them at all, each about the size of a kingsized bed, hauling some serious azz and flying with what looks like a couple of inches between wingtips. What's really impressive is when they do axial rolls, loops, etc, all at the same time. It's impressive to say the least. I'm pretty sure they are all flying on the same control set.
 
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