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Focusrite ISA One Mic Preamp???????

Well, I have a focusrite saffire pro 40 that just last week I recorded my bands ever evolving catalog of EP songs on and I feel that the pre's on the unit are fine but the vocals need a little something extra for our next set of recording and rerecording. I pretty much only have a $500 budget for a single channel good sounding preamp and from what I've read everyone says the ISA One is great. So my question is... does anyone have any experience with it and can tell me if its worth the upgrade please. Also, hows the D.I. channel on it? Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!:bassist:
 
I have an ISA One and I use it every day. It's excellent as a clean reference channel, and the DI is really nice sounding. However it's one of those tools that's so good because it doesn't get in the way, it doesn't harm your signal, it doesn't impart any characteristic color. So while it might be a step up from the Saffire in some sense, I wouldn't suggest it as a "magic box" for recorded tone.

I agree that mics can make more of a difference in this context, rather than one clean preamp versus another.
 
Don't underestimate the power of a good mic pre!

One of the features of the ISA One is the variable impedance, which can give your mic a whole new dimension. You haven't heard a Shure SM57 until you've heard it through a mic pre at 150-200 ohms. THEN you'll understand what that mic is all about.

Most modern pres are 1500-2000 ohms (I think - over 1000 for sure). Vintage mics that were designed for 150-200 ohms don't sound as good with the modern pre-amps - IMO.

The ISA range mic pre-amp inputs and outputs are also "transformer coupled." That's about as technical as I can get about transformers, except they usually improve the sound.

I have the ISA428 and really like it (good digital converters too)! The Saffire Pro is decent. But stepping up to the ISA One will make you want more Neve designed channels (i.e., ISA428 or ISA828)!
 
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Thanks for the reply guys, and I just bought a stereo set of AKG c214's a few months ago, use them for overheads, and vocals. I A/B'ed the mics with a friends c 414 and it sounds almost completely identical. (very small nuance differences). So I don't think I need to upgrade mics, maybe just a better preamp. (though it would be nice to have a Neumann)

But tell me what you guys think?
 
We have one, and use it all the time. Below is the link to a song recorded with it. NOTHING was really mixed/mastered. It is basic level setting and a few plug ins. It is a wonderful piece of gear, and I recommend it to everyone. Please note, we have a Neumann TLM 102 as a mic, so results may vary...

Friction Broadcast In The Studio: Breathe - YouTube
 
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Very clean, not my choice on most things but I have an amek purepath that does the same job to an astronomical level. I'd rather quite a few other things but in the price range its a real PROPER preamp that draws no real critiscism, other than 'it doesn't sound like X or Y costing 4x more'. I'd say go for it!
 
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The ISA One is not a "clean" preamp. It sounds clean, but it is rather coloured especially in the high end. Just because something sounds better doesn't mean it's more accurate. A bell sounds better than a sine wave generator for the same reasons an ISA One sounds better than a Mackie 1604.

Sure, the ISA One is a very handy preamp for making things sound "clean", but it's hype, not accuracy. Just sayin.
 
Don't underestimate the power of a good mic pre!

One of the features of the ISA One is the variable impedance, which can give your mic a whole new dimension. You haven't heard a Shure SM57 until you've heard it through a mic pre at 150-200 ohms. THEN you'll understand what that mic is all about.

Most modern pres are 1500-2000 ohms (I think - over 1000 for sure). Vintage mics that were designed for 150-200 ohms don't sound as good with the modern pre-amps - IMO.

The ISA range mic pre-amp inputs and outputs are also "transformer coupled." That's about as technical as I can get about transformers, except they usually improve the sound.

I have the ISA428 and really like it (good digital converters too)! The Saffire Pro is decent. But stepping up to the ISA One will make you want more Neve designed channels (i.e., ISA428 or ISA828)!
I agree completely. This is an old post, but the topic is always current. I do session work from my home studio, and I use the ISA One with my electric and upright basses. Here's the main thing about using this great pre... It is a preamp and a DI. They can function independently or be used at one time, but they do different things. The DI is very clean and crisp sounding, but it does not add a lot of tone color. It is pristine. However, my favorite use of this tool is the preamp. Unlike the DI, the preamp adds some color and can make the bass sound huge (as in the big Nashville sessions' bass tone.)

I discovered the real magic of this beauty in the phase effect on the front panel. Depending upon your bass, your ideal setting may be with the phase light on or off, and when you find it you will know. It immediately provides that thick, balmy sound. If you want a thinner sound, just push the phase button again.
 
The ISA One is not a "clean" preamp. It sounds clean, but it is rather coloured especially in the high end. Just because something sounds better doesn't mean it's more accurate. A bell sounds better than a sine wave generator for the same reasons an ISA One sounds better than a Mackie 1604.

Sure, the ISA One is a very handy preamp for making things sound "clean", but it's hype, not accuracy. Just sayin.

I agree to a point. The pre definitely adds character to the sound, however the DI does not. I've never heard a cleaner sounding DI, and that frankly is why some dislike it. They forget that this tool does two different things. And IMO, when a device makes my bass sound better, it is not hype!