Fodera Club Part IV

[KJung]

For 35" scale you just multiply all the numbers by 1.029. It's not a huge difference, but all same points apply.

2 1/8" becomes about 2 3/16" and so on. I don't necessarily hear a change of 1/16" personally. But the difference is cumulative.

My moving PU mechanism will allow for adjustments in detented increments of .125" and a total travel of 1", from bridge coil at 2" to bridge coil at 3". So I'll get all the fender spots, plus a bunch more.

To your point 1 response, you have the coil that is in the neck position at the J-bass spot. But the way these kinds of passive PU's work (forgive me if this is old news to you...it's not to some), in order to hum cancel, you pair a North magnet (bridge) with a south magnet (Neck) but the Neck is an "up side down" wind. So any signal generated by a combination of the magnetic field and the electrical coil is inverted twice relative to the bridge PU...or 360 degrees out of phase...or in phase. But the noise is only effectively being picked up by the coils independant of the magnets. So the noise is 180 degrees out of phase. So when the two PU's are blended, the noise is in each one backwards and hence gets cancelled.

The catch with the dual coil thing is that the "inner" coil of a bridge PU is wound the same as the outer coil of a neck PU. So if you use only the coil on the neck PU that is in the correct spot, when you blend it with the "outer" coil of the bridge it's fine, but if you blend it with the inner coil of the bridge, you get lots of noise (more than one coil alone). If you reverse the polarity to cancel the noise, you also put your main signal out of phase.

Cool... I did not know that. Thanks! Makes sense.

I look forward to hearing you in concert sometime with your new bass. The old one sure sounded darn good

 

[spade2you]

I don't think we should really pay more for a bass than Jaco, Chris Squire, Gary Willis and other bass giants initialy paid for their respective stock basses, unless having better results.
So the rest is sales & marketing nice to have stuff and "look at me how sexy I am !"

Best regards

Repeat after me: I have never played a Fodera (or boutique brand of choice), but I can assure you that they're not worth it.

 

[thepontif]

Yes. And everyone knows I am simply sexy, shameless self-promotor. Into myself and only concerned with appearance. Which is why I play a Fodera. Heck, I can't even really tune it correctly. That's how I get gigs.

 

[spade2you]

Yes. And everyone knows I am simply sexy, shameless self-promotor. Into myself and only concerned with appearance. Which is why I play a Fodera. Heck, I can't even really tune it correctly. That's how I get gigs.

Just think how many gigs you'd get with a Fender. You'd actually hear yourself in the mix, too!

 

[thepontif]

I think the only Fender I currently own is on my car. I may have a strap or a pick or something like that around....

Heck, I don't have ANY other basses except my acoustic and my BSX.

Of course, that's soon to change.

 

[Rich Treat]

Just think how many gigs you'd get with a Fender. You'd actually hear yourself in the mix, too!

I don't think that Mike Pope has trouble getting gigs without a fender....

 

[spade2you]

I don't think that Mike Pope has trouble getting gigs without a fender....

Well aware, just being sarcastic with the common idea that ONLY a Fender sits in the mix and you can't get a gig with them thar coffee table basses.

 

[cnltb]

Mind you... I have not gotten gigs in the past for not having a P bass...
Now I really want one

 

[Rich Treat]

Well aware, just being sarcastic with the common idea that ONLY a Fender sits in the mix and you can't get a gig with them thar coffee table basses.

Sorry, I should have picked up on the sarcasm... Haven't had my coffee yet.

 

[spade2you]

Haven't had my coffee yet.

Your coffee table bass will be a suitable place to rest it!

 

[steubig]

On a side note, I just finished a piano trio project here with my brother on drums and John Patitucci on bass (me on piano). Holy crap, he played his butt off. All acoustic bass. And for the folks who think Foderas are too expensive, his acoustic (a Jean Baptiste Vuillaume...one of only 4 or 5 ever made) would sell for the better part of $100,000.00. makes $8400.00 seem pretty reasonable to me

and don't even get into violins . . .

for people who don't want to pay more than you would for a fender ca 1963 list . . . would you at least adjust for inflation?

 

[Rich Treat]

On a side note, I just finished a piano trio project here with my brother on drums and John Patitucci on bass (me on piano). Holy crap, he played his butt off. All acoustic bass. And for the folks who think Foderas are too expensive, his acoustic (a Jean Baptiste Vuillaume...one of only 4 or 5 ever made) would sell for the better part of $100,000.00. makes $8400.00 seem pretty reasonable to me

No bass duets??

I love Patitucci's playing, I can't wait to hear this.

 

[Christian Houmann]

All good. Should be seeing that moving PU mechanism any day now too. Being able to go from 70's to 60's spacing (and beyond) will make that bass incredibly flexible. I'm really psyched!

Very cool! Mike. Are you getting 17.5 mm string spacing on your new bass?

 

[Rich Treat]

Your coffee table bass will be a suitable place to rest it!

I don't have my coffee table YET. Hopefully just one more month. Until then I'll just have to hold my coffee.

 

[TheSiberian]

Yes. And everyone knows I am simply sexy, shameless self-promotor. Into myself and only concerned with appearance. Which is why I play a Fodera. Heck, I can't even really tune it correctly. That's how I get gigs.

Sorry, guys I never intended to offend anyone.
But unfortunately I did, so sorry again specialy to ThePontif.
And of course I have Foderas (5 in fact) and this is the reason I watch this thread.
But nevertheless they will not make me a better player just because they are expensive.

Best regards

 

[spade2you]

But nevertheless they will not make me a better player just because they are expensive.

No instrument will make anyone a better player simply because it costs more. When you start putting that $ into improving the instrument, then it has the potential to make the musician play a little better.

 

[Bernie Connors]

I don't have my coffee table YET. Hopefully just one more month. Until then I'll just have to hold my coffee.

Really looking forward to seeing that!

Any in progress pics?

 

[jim777]

No instrument will make anyone a better player simply because it costs more. When you start putting that $ into improving the instrument, then it has the potential to make the musician play a little better.

Agreed - a better instrument inspires you to play it more often and that makes you better. The price isn't the point, the 'better' is.

 

[cnltb]

Better instruments also often set up easier , making them easier to play than not so well made ones.

 

[Rich Treat]

Really looking forward to seeing that!

Any in progress pics?

I've asked and we shall see. I am sure that the shop is busy and if I am unable to get progress pictures I will not be disappointed at all. Jason is a practically a saint to spend so much time answering all of our questions as it is.

Agreed - a better instrument inspires you to play it more often and that makes you better. The price isn't the point, the 'better' is.

+1 Sometimes a nice instrument can inspire you to practice more; however, what really matters at the end of the day is how you play.

One my teachers told me how he had the cheapest upright out of 100+ bass players at the University of North Texas. His upright was "cheaper than some of the other players' bows." But he still had the top slot in the jazz bands and is one of the most called bass players in our region. Great gear is nice to have, and sometimes it is easier to perform on, but it is secondary to talent.