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Fodera Club Part XVII

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Not easy to determine the best choice who will bring the sound I have in my mind...
As I have a changing mind...:D
(need a thousand mail to Jason...:eek:)


A friend of mine had an Emperor 5 with ash body, redwood top, and Brazilian rosewood fingerboard. That was the best sounding Fodera I've ever heard, maybe one of the best sounding basses I've ever heard. I'm not an ash guy, I much prefer alder, but this bass made me rethink it a little. I think it was the fingerboard that brought the tone back to my liking as I'm used to playing ash/maple basses which I don't like.
 
Thank you for your comment.

Not easy to determine the best choice who will bring the sound I have in my mind...
As I have a changing mind...:D
(need a thousand mail to Jason...:eek:)

Salut, :)

For me the Ash/RW (or Pao Ferro on my new one) is MY Sound - can't get any better for me. Punchy, warm, but enough sizzle and brightness for great slaps (ok, I use this combo on Bolt-On basses with Singlecoils - I think this is another big part ;))

I've also had the Ash/Maple combo (on a 78' JB) and also played some other basses with this combo and sth. is missing there for me.... but this is only my taste.
 
danke schön !

the punchy, warm with sizzle and brightness sound is my goal on this bass.

I love the ash/maple combo on the Sadowsky, but I need something else.


Salut, :)

For me the Ash/RW (or Pao Ferro on my new one) is MY Sound - can't get any better for me. Punchy, warm, but enough sizzle and brightness for great slaps (ok, I use this combo on Bolt-On basses with Singlecoils - I think this is another big part ;))

I've also had the Ash/Maple combo (on a 78' JB) and also played some other basses with this combo and sth. is missing there for me.... but this is only my taste.
 
So true!!! There is this misperception here on TB that you show up at a gig and everyone looks at your gear and says "hmm, a Fodera, this guy is playing a really expensive bass." I just did a gig last night that is far more typical (IMHO)...after we were done with our second set and we were breaking down our gear, a middle aged woman came up and said "how do you make your bass sound so clear?"

I chatted with her for awhile. She was not a musician but loved seeing live music and noticed that she was able to "hear each note much more clearly than I am used to" (her words, not mine). It was pretty cool that she came up and asked. I do get this kind of feedback and/or compliments on the way the bass looks, etc. However, it's been fewer than a handful of times in fives years that someone from the audience corners me after a gig and asks about my Fodera by name.

The idea is the tone and the way they make you feel when playing them. That's it.

Most people, even many bass players, don't know what a Fodera is. "Hmmm ... Fodera ... how do you say that? Is it as good as a Fender?" I've had several bass players ask me about mine, saying they had never heard of it. The reward of playing one isn't instant status on stage, rather, it's the sound. Of course, being heard in the mix is much about proper EQing, but the clarity of the Fodera/Pope preamp just seems to make it easier to dial up a great tone.
 
To Muji's point...

Earlier in the week I was at a buddy's place and he is a sax player. He threw on a TV channel that was playing a concert from the Montreal Jazz Festival. Forget who it was .... Brecker maybe?

In any case, the sax player had this old mangled looking sax and I asked my buddy why the guy would play that ugly P.O.S. he laughed his ass off and said the instrument was worth a fortune. $10k, $20k, whatever. It was so ugly, I wouldn't have paid $50 at a garage sale.

I'm sure 0.001% of musicians are drooling over the ugly old thing!
 
danke schön !

the punchy, warm with sizzle and brightness sound is my goal on this bass.

I love the ash/maple combo on the Sadowsky, but I need something else.

My Fodera Imperial is ash/braz RW with a walnut top and mahogany Tone block.

The ash/RW is a nice middle of the road combo, and the Braz. RW gets you more upper harmonic content without the string noise of maple. It's really pretty nice to slap on- brighter than you might think. I can also dial down the tone knob and boost some low mids and get thick but clear warm vintage tone.

You could fine tune that combo with a top, Toneblock, and of course strings.

Theres a few clips on my website.
 
We have done that in the past and not really loved it. If you want P/J tone on a 5er and want a more vintage sound (as opposed to EMG's), this is THE way to go. It is the best that we have heard...

http://www.fodera.com/Main/NewBornDetails.aspx?FeaturedItemID=477

Big kudos to Andy for pushing us in this direction. He had been working with us for almost three years to refine that tone and through his work with Carey (Nordstrand) coupled with using the "Emperor Standard Platform" we finally got something that made us all say "wow."

Regards,

J

What's the spec on the bridge pickup? One of Nordstrand's big splits or big singles?
 
May I ask you wich kind of music do you play with your ash/rw ?

Salut, :)

For me the Ash/RW (or Pao Ferro on my new one) is MY Sound - can't get any better for me. Punchy, warm, but enough sizzle and brightness for great slaps (ok, I use this combo on Bolt-On basses with Singlecoils - I think this is another big part ;))

I've also had the Ash/Maple combo (on a 78' JB) and also played some other basses with this combo and sth. is missing there for me.... but this is only my taste.
 
May I ask you wich kind of music do you play with your ash/rw ?

everything :) - my new Viceroy is basically based on my beloved Fender CS 66' JB which also has this combo (also being the PUs located in the 60ies position) and let me found MY sound. So my new Viceroy was built with that sound in mind (the only difference is the old growth Pao Ferro board) and the Viceroy kills everything :) - it feels and plays better than my Fender and I could play any style of gig with it - I would even be able to play a Heavy Metal gig with it :)

and for the rest I do have my Fender 62' CS Pbass which has the Alder/RW combo
 
Thank you Robin,

I already listened a couple of time today your review and it brings me a lot of thinking material.

Very good tone !

Do you use this bass in jazz gig ?




My Fodera Imperial is ash/braz RW with a walnut top and mahogany Tone block.

The ash/RW is a nice middle of the road combo, and the Braz. RW gets you more upper harmonic content without the string noise of maple. It's really pretty nice to slap on- brighter than you might think. I can also dial down the tone knob and boost some low mids and get thick but clear warm vintage tone.

You could fine tune that combo with a top, Toneblock, and of course strings.

Theres a few clips on my website.
 
it looks like the perfect bass !
Nice to read people who founded THE bass !

Thank you !

everything :) - my new Viceroy is basically based on my beloved Fender CS 66' JB which also has this combo (also being the PUs located in the 60ies position) and let me found MY sound. So my new Viceroy was built with that sound in mind (the only difference is the old growth Pao Ferro board) and the Viceroy kills everything :) - it feels and plays better than my Fender and I could play any style of gig with it - I would even be able to play a Heavy Metal gig with it :)

and for the rest I do have my Fender 62' CS Pbass which has the Alder/RW combo
 
Here's a short review I did in the pickups forum of the new setup I installed in my Monarch. I know I've posted some of this info here before, but I thought y'all might find it insteresting as most Monarchs use either Duncans or EMG's.

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f38/r...ndy-fralin-pope-flexcore-962384/#post13950324



I bought one of the old 90's Fodera Monarch New Standards about a year and a half ago. I loved everything about the bass, but the tone wasn't as good as the YYS that I owned about the same time. I knew the big difference betweent the two was the preamp, so I sold off the two-band Pope preamp and slapped in a Flexcore. This was leaps and bounds better than the old preamp and I played it this way for over a year. I really can't say enough about this preamp and I don't see myself buying a different preamp for any bass in the future. Having two bands of mids makes the bass capable of anything. I never touch the treble knob on a preamp and rarely boost the bass. I've always found mids to be where all the tone is and it's all I really ever mess with.

Although the preamp made the tone much, much clearer and more versatile with the 4 band replacing the 2 band, I kept feeling that the EMG's were really holdng this bass back. The tone was always good, but never fantastic. The bridge pickup was wiry sounding and the precision pickup really lacked the punch I was accustomed to with P's. I searched long and hard for months trying to find the perfect PJ combo to replace the EMG's. I finally decided on a D.Allen precision pickup and a Lindy Fralin 5% overwound lateral humbucker in the bridge. It's been a PIA to switch over to passive pickups. I had to get a luthier, and find a luthier local to me for that matter, to drill a hole from the bridge for a ground wire and another hole for the active passive switch. I haven't had a chance to shield the pickup cavities and ground them, so I still have a decent amount of buzz going on. I'm going to pull the pickups back out and do it when I have the time.

So long story short, too late, I finally have the pickups in my bass, have them dialed in and have really spent some time with them. I am very, very pleased with the difference and the bass has never sounded better! Where the EMG's were very compressed with no deep lows and very little treble, this setup retains the clarity but really opens up the tone a lot.

The D.Allen really adds a lot of girth to the tone. When I have the balance knob centered, the bass is incredibly punchy with serious lows and fantastic harmonics. I add a touch of low mids on the preamp sometimes to round it out a bit, but it's not necessary. If I pan back to the bridge a bit and bump the bass up to compensate the bass doesn't just growl, it SNARLS! I was havnig a blast playing staccato, aggressive lines. The only problem that I have is, the D.Allen can sound kind of muddy and indistinct when soloed. I have a feeling that this is a side effect of mixing two brands of pickups. They are wound to close to the same value, but they also were out of phase, requiring me to wire the Fralin backwards. All I have to do when just playing through the P pickup is bump the upper mids on the Flexcore and all is well and it sounds fantastic. It has vintage warmth and clarity.

The Pope goes great with the more vintage pickups. The bass sounds wonderful in passive and when I switch to active, I get a nice gain boost without really changing the tone too much. The versatility of the preamp makes it much easier to dial in exactly what I want instead of getting close.

So, I'm really happy with what I have going so far, but I still need to deal with the buzz. The bass puts a big ol smile on my face when I play it and the tone FINALLY matches the playability. I've owned a ton of basses and this really has killed all my gas........at least my 4 string gas. I'm probably going to try the Lindy Fralin at some point instead of the D.Allen. The Fralin is known for having upper mids and that's exactly what the D.Allen is missing. I also wonder if mixing the two brands and the phase issue is holding anything back. There is something to be said for two pickups designed to go together.


Feel free to ask any questions!



Thanks,


Michael
 
Hey Jason,

I think I got faulty Fodera SS strings on my new E5S.:p

I have had the bass exactly a month and the strings are starting to sound dull. Do you think the fact that I am playing this bass waaaayyyy more in a day than any other bass I have owned in years MIGHT have something to do with it?:hiding:

Seriously, I thought it was weird that I blew thru a set of Fodera strings in a month.... until I realized that I can't put the damned bass down and am logging serious time in this thing.:bassist:

Glad I ordered a 10 pack of your strings!

Amazing strings BTW. Also, they are very competitively priced.
 
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