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Fodera NYC, where is it made?
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Doh! I forgot that Joel wan't too far from the Fodera shop. I automatically assumed that shop ment his shop. Sorry Joel 
Nlow,my "rant" wasn't at all directed at JoelC or his business. My rant(if you want ot call it that) is directed at Fodera. Read it again. There are zero implications to the Groove Shoppe or Joel (aside from the fact that he didn't know where they were made). Unless you're saying The Groove Shoppe=Fodera. If that's the case... then I guess that was directed at him. Otherwise...... no
Nlow,my "rant" wasn't at all directed at JoelC or his business. My rant(if you want ot call it that) is directed at Fodera. Read it again. There are zero implications to the Groove Shoppe or Joel (aside from the fact that he didn't know where they were made). Unless you're saying The Groove Shoppe=Fodera. If that's the case... then I guess that was directed at him. Otherwise...... no
I've been told by Joey that the new NYC's were handmade in the shop. Most of the people here who have contridicted that are affiliated with direct Fodera competitors. The very first run NYCs used Warmoth necks but then they quickly turned to hand carved necks, as is the case with the New NYCs. If anyone really wants to know instead of speculating, why don't you call joey and ask him yourself?
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BIg O said:
It doesn't say anywhere on that page where the Fodera NYC basses are made.
It does say "...to keep the cost down we build these in small batches..." but it does not say where they are built.
If you want to know I think you'll have to ask Fodera.
beav2k2 said:Doh! I forgot that Joel wan't too far from the Fodera shop. I automatically assumed that shop ment his shop. Sorry Joel
Okay, that's "one"
Even if it was at his shop, if he doesn't SELL the bass, he doesn't SELL the bass.
Nlow,my "rant" wasn't at all directed at JoelC or his business. My rant(if you want ot call it that) is directed at Fodera. Read it again. There are zero implications to the Groove Shoppe or Joel (aside from the fact that he didn't know where they were made). Unless you're saying The Groove Shoppe=Fodera. If that's the case... then I guess that was directed at him. Otherwise...... no
I think YOU should read it again. Did you quote "Fodera"?
You pointed directly at Joel and his business. I'm not saying the Groove Shoppe=Fodera... you're just acting like it
Re: NYCs... He clearly said he doesn't know and he doesn't carry them.
Considering no one from Fodera connected to these basses has responded, your rant (looks like a rant to me
) seems offbase. You're worked up over Fodera not answering a question HERE? This is Talkbass, not www.fodera.comThey have a website, email and a phone number. Anyone who really wants an answer should easily get one.
There are a couple of these making the rounds with players that I know pretty well, and the feedback so far is good. I have not had the pleasure of trying one myself yet. The feedback I've received from two sources now, from people who have played both Celinders and the Fodera NYC's is that the Fodera RW/Alder model is VERY nice, and that the Maple/Ash model, while nice, does not really model the 70's style J Bass very well, given the pickup placement and the relatively 'polite' voicing of the Pope pre. Of course, that could be a positive or negative depending what you are looking for.
FYI....they sell for about the same as the 'base' Celinder and the Sadowsky NYC J Bass models with fancy tops.
Per the thread topic, I could care less where any of this stuff is made....
FYI....they sell for about the same as the 'base' Celinder and the Sadowsky NYC J Bass models with fancy tops.
Per the thread topic, I could care less where any of this stuff is made....
beav2k2,
I'm not exactly sure why you pulled me specifically into this but I would like to respond...
As I mentioned in a previous post, we do not carry the NYC line. I've played exactly three of them at the Fodera shop and I thought they were quite nice. I have absolutely no other insight to add.
I'm not sure why I would be expected to be all knowing about a product line I don't carry??
Custom Fodera sales are certainly a major piece of our business but we decided not to carry the NYC's because they aren't a great fit for us right now.
I'm also not following your argument about withholding information to make more money? How exactly will I make more money off of something that I don't even sell? In this case the opposite is true. The reason we don't sell the NYC's is because they compete in a similar space to other lines that we sell. Using your logic wouldn't it actually be better for me if people didn't buy the NYC's??
I stayed out of this thread because I couldn't add any value. I don't have a definitive answer nor will I make one up for the sake of answering. There are plenty of guys here who will tell you, quite matter-of-factly, that they know the answer to things without a single element of fact to base it on. That's not my style.
Someone should call Fodera and ask where they are made.
I'm not exactly sure why you pulled me specifically into this but I would like to respond...
As I mentioned in a previous post, we do not carry the NYC line. I've played exactly three of them at the Fodera shop and I thought they were quite nice. I have absolutely no other insight to add.
I'm not sure why I would be expected to be all knowing about a product line I don't carry??
Custom Fodera sales are certainly a major piece of our business but we decided not to carry the NYC's because they aren't a great fit for us right now. I'm also not following your argument about withholding information to make more money? How exactly will I make more money off of something that I don't even sell? In this case the opposite is true. The reason we don't sell the NYC's is because they compete in a similar space to other lines that we sell. Using your logic wouldn't it actually be better for me if people didn't buy the NYC's??
I stayed out of this thread because I couldn't add any value. I don't have a definitive answer nor will I make one up for the sake of answering. There are plenty of guys here who will tell you, quite matter-of-factly, that they know the answer to things without a single element of fact to base it on. That's not my style.
Someone should call Fodera and ask where they are made.
Ok, let me clarify what I'm saying and I'll throw my hat in fellas.
Joel, the only reason I brought you into this is your "the shop" statement. I automatically assumed "the shop" was "the shop" that you own/work at. As I said, I apoligise for this assumption (I even threw in a smilie to seal the deal)
If he didn't sell the bass(es), how did he sell the bass(es)?
No implications of the Groove Shoppe here. I've never read a cross word about Joel or anyone else. The GS is just the middle man. They have nothing to do with the production of any Fodera. They place the order, they receive the bas, and they sell the bass. Hence, I'm not talking about them at all.
Brad, I don't think you realise we're agreeing on a couple of things. No, they don't carry them on a regular basis. No, it's not a selling point of the GS. That's settled. We're in agreement here.
Even IF they did sell the NYC basses, this wouldn't really have anything to do with them. They wouldn't double the list price, nor would they half the list price to sell the basses.
The point I'm trying to make is this - Fodera seems to be secerative about these basses. Name a company that produces a high end bass that isn't happy to tell you where it's made? Brubaker has no bones on where all their basses are made. One click on the website shows that.
I'm asking, why would you want to mislead your customers? If it's made in the US say it. If it's made in Bangladesh, say it.
Joel, the only reason I brought you into this is your "the shop" statement. I automatically assumed "the shop" was "the shop" that you own/work at. As I said, I apoligise for this assumption (I even threw in a smilie to seal the deal
)If he didn't sell the bass(es), how did he sell the bass(es)?
beav2k2 said:
No implications of the Groove Shoppe here. I've never read a cross word about Joel or anyone else. The GS is just the middle man. They have nothing to do with the production of any Fodera. They place the order, they receive the bas, and they sell the bass. Hence, I'm not talking about them at all.
Brad, I don't think you realise we're agreeing on a couple of things. No, they don't carry them on a regular basis. No, it's not a selling point of the GS. That's settled. We're in agreement here.
Even IF they did sell the NYC basses, this wouldn't really have anything to do with them. They wouldn't double the list price, nor would they half the list price to sell the basses.
The point I'm trying to make is this - Fodera seems to be secerative about these basses. Name a company that produces a high end bass that isn't happy to tell you where it's made? Brubaker has no bones on where all their basses are made. One click on the website shows that.
I'm asking, why would you want to mislead your customers? If it's made in the US say it. If it's made in Bangladesh, say it.
beav2k2 said:
Fodera's not being secretive about anything. They make their own basses, the Fodera's and now the NYC's. They show that they use Duncan, Aero and EMG pu's and Pope pre's, so where are they misleading anyone.
beav2k2 said:Ok, let me clarify what I'm saying and I'll throw my hat in fellas.
Joel, the only reason I brought you into this is your "the shop" statement. I automatically assumed "the shop" was "the shop" that you own/work at. As I said, I apoligise for this assumption (I even threw in a smilie to seal the deal
Hey, my responses weren't because I was mad at ya... I'm not. I was and continue to be baffled how Joel could've been brought into this at all when IIRC one of the first things he said was that he does not sell that model bass?
Regardless of WHERE he played it, be it at his shop, Fodera's or [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
If he didn't sell the bass(es), how did he sell the bass(es)?
He) did(n't)!
Except in this case... He DOESN'T!
Is this thing on?
When exactly did "regular basis" enter the conversation?
What are we agreeing on?
I have no idea what this really means... but that's okay.
This is really important to you. It may well be very important to others. Here's what it means to me, as a perspective customer... zilch. Why? Because if I'm buying a Fodera, the ultimate factor is what does the bass do and who is standing behind it.
Actually Kevin B. retired quite some time ago and the basses have been built in Laos by skilled luthi... oops, I've said too much.
Now let's say I play an NYC bass and love it but later on, through clandestine measures, I find that the neck was made in Laos.
Actually, not an issue for me, as I'm well aware of the quality of the Laotian luthie... there I go again.
Now of course I'll have to kill you. My apologies.
See what you made me do?
KJung said:That's a lot of money to pay for a bass that was made in Laos.
What makes Laos any different than say, Copenhagen or Denmark or Tokyo? Quality is quality, it's either good or bad. It's either worth the $3000+ price tag or it's not.
kelbrihan said:What makes Laos any different than say, Copenhagen or Denmark or Tokyo? Quality is quality, it's either good or bad. It's either worth the $3000+ price tag or it's not.
Clearly you've never had a bass made in Copenhagen
Actually, i've had two, but i've also had an NYC that was slammin no matter where it was made.Fretless5verfan said:Clearly you've never had a bass made in Copenhagen
kelbrihan said:Actually, i've had two, but i've also had an NYC that was slammin no matter where it was made.
You're not serious are you? They really make basses in Copenhagen?
