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Fodera Vs Carvin

#221
Baird6869 said:
Not a witch, a ghost. In honour of the "ghost bass" I recieved today.

It isn't a Carvin or a Fodera mind you, but it DID cost more than a Porsche..... a 1975 914, but a Porsche is a Porsche. Just metal, rubber and glass if you use the logic that a bass is only pieces of wood and bits of metal.

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Wow, perty
 
#225
Oh! I just had an idea! Let's take a tilt back headstock, neck-through body bass, and let's take a non-tilt back headstock, bolt on body bass, and throw them both down the stairs and see what happens. This is going to be fun!
 
#226
Smooth_bass88 said:
Oh! I just had an idea! Let's take a tilt back headstock, neck-through body bass, and let's take a non-tilt back headstock, bolt on body bass, and throw them both down the stairs and see what happens. This is going to be fun!
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Most people don't realize that a tilt back headstock made with the right joint can be pretty much as strong as a one piece straight headstock.

Gibson is the main culprit when it comes to headstock breaks.

Watching a Gibson SG/1275 doubleneck go down the stairs would be something to see though.
 
#228
nostatic said:
If you don't play a sunburst P-bass with flats, you're a poseur with too much money to spend.

Playable art - and just like art, everyone has different tastes and differing opinions. Play what you love, and as is the mantra of TB, piss on stuff that you don't like (often never having played it)...

As for me, I gig the crap out of this and love every minute of it

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this was a TEDx talk, but I played during it
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This was a spectacular bass (ended up selling it though)

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Wow, that is increadible.
 
#229
lfmn16 said:
Just my 2 cents, maybe 4 cents because this is my second post in this thread.

  • Loving your bass = cool.
  • Telling everyone you love your bass = cool.
  • Telling everyone that your bass is a good value = cool.
  • Telling other people that their bass is overpriced and not as good as yours = not cool.

  • Asking a question: "Just curious, does a $10k Fodera MG play and sound that much better than my Carvin SB5001? "
  • Answering your own question: "I know Im gonna get lit up on this one... its just I don't see it. "
  • Having made up your mind before starting the thread: "Carvin man."
= TROLL

For the record I don't own a Fodera or a Carvin although I've played them both. I just get tired of these divisive threads. Why not just skip them? Because this type of rudeness spills over into other threads and can poison an online community. We really only need one rule on TB - don't be rude. If you don't want someone telling you that your $1,000 bass is overpriced and not as good as their $200 bass, don't tell everyone that your $1,000 bass is better than their overpriced $10,000 bass.
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I've been deliberately not rude on TB but this is kind of a rub here, you call me a troll but within 3 sentences following preach about not being rude. The issue with social media is we are forced to have conversation with individuals we would otherwise not associate with. If I would have made that same statement in a workshop or group setting in which we were in attendance, the degree of criticism would be totally different. Actually, probably would have been none, just discussion.
 
#230
JaredBT said:
I've been deliberately not rude on TB but this is kind of a rub here, you call me a troll but within 3 sentences following preach about not being rude. The issue with social media is we are forced to have conversation with individuals we would otherwise not associate with. If I would have made that same statement in a workshop or group setting in which we were in attendance, the degree of criticism would be totally different. Actually, probably would have been none, just discussion.
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Sorry, didn't mean to say "we"
 
#232
pnchad said:
These threads make me quesy and uncomfortable because we all know it's about money

You Squire owners are full of crap if you don't think you'd go after a Fodera or a Ritter or some such thing should you will the lotto Saturday night

I played pro 6 nights/ week for 25 years mostly on a '76 P factory fretless I bought for $225 in 1977

Then, being lucky enough to have made a few bucks (used to haha) and concentrating on jazz, I finally bought all the basses I ever dreamed of - seriously like 35 high end basses over about 12 yrs. some have gone, some have stayed. My go-to bass for live jazz gigs is NOT a Fodera (I've had 5 total over the years)

But, if I'm called to record the Imp E 36" 5 fretless comes out. There is nothing that fills a track like that bass with creamy rich articulate tones. My Sad, Bebennsee, Worp, arch top, original P & Js, etc. etc. sit home.

Best tool for the job I say.
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I don't own a fodera. I do own a gorgeous Warwick Dolphin which is worth a fair amount of coin.
I also own a Squier which I love.
Of all the basses I have ever owned I miss my Carvin LB-90 the most.
My point is dollar amounts mean nothing.
To some the price tag is a status symbol.
I lived in Orange County for 20 years
There were people wearing Rolex and driving BMW'S while living in (admittedly posh) studio apartments... all the while living well beyond their means. They deemed it important enough to there self worth to finance things that would only be useful for 5 years at high interest rates that they would be paying off for 10 years .
They took pride in their folly.
I drove 60's VWS I never got it...
A band mate took to living in a crappy neighborhood walked or took the bus everywhere to save up to buy a keyboard an oberheim. ..
I won't drop names but he is a rather accomplished score writer at thus time.

Point again? If not trolling.......

you need to simply realize what you value and find important is priceless... dollars spent mean nothing.
Value is only to the person that places value upon it.
Much like beauty is on the eye of the beholder.

I value love and friendship more than any material object.

Is a Lamborghini worth as much as a house YES.
Would I ever buy one even if I had the coin????
NO NO NO
I'd rather have something I have dreamed of owning since childhood a 70's Buick Riviera boattail.
Value and worth are assigned by the person holding the decision to obtain or not.
 
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#233
JaredBT said:
I've been deliberately not rude on TB but this is kind of a rub here, you call me a troll but within 3 sentences following preach about not being rude. The issue with social media is we are forced to have conversation with individuals we would otherwise not associate with. If I would have made that same statement in a workshop or group setting in which we were in attendance, the degree of criticism would be totally different. Actually, probably would have been none, just discussion.
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Well you've been on TB long enough to know how these threads go. You purposefully start a thread that you admit will get you 'lit up.' It's only rude to call someone a troll if they aren't. :D

If you aren't a troll, what new information did you hope to get that isn't in the weekly "my cheap bass is better than your expensive bass," "why does this cost so much," and " is this worth it?" threads?
 
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lfmn16 said:
Well you've been on TB long enough to know how these threads go. You purposefully start a thread that you admit will get you 'lit up.' It's only rude to call someone a troll if they aren't. :D

If you aren't a troll, what new information did you hope to get that isn't in the weekly "my cheap bass is better than your expensive bass," "why does this cost so much," and " is this worth it?" threads?
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Ok Sunbeam.
 
#238
...and so the discussion ends and the infighting begins.

Here's my story: I have an SB5000 that I paid about $1200 for new. It is a great playing and sounding bass. The worst thing I can say about it is that it is a little heavy, and the vintage cream finish is a little more pastel than I would prefer. I stopped playing it at shows in favor of a SUB Ray5 that I payed $269 for new. Should I start a thread to discuss how Carvins aren't worth it compared to the SBMM Sub series?

Then I stopped using the Ray5 and started using an Alembic Orion. It lists for $8200, although I didn't pay anything close to that for it. What kind of a thread do I start about that? And what about the Dingwall ABI that I've had sitting in a case while I played the Carvin, Sub, and Alembic? What does me playing other basses say about the quality of that bass?

The only reason you are having this argument is because of price. If you were able to take that out of the equation, then you could talk about which you really prefer. If the Carvin wins, you save some coin. If the Fodera wins, your wallet is a little lighter. Either way, you get the bass you want.

I'll let this thread resume its douche baggery now.
 
#239
today i was listening to a great jazz performance on a not-great piano. got me thinking.

steinway, hamlin, bosendorfer (you can put in many different other makes here): they're all pianos that "get the job done." most pianists would probably prefer one or the other; in fact, they'd be thrilled to own at least two of them. why do bass players fight over this stuff? it's absurd.
 
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