FOMO on TT-800?

[MustangMan78]

I currently have a WD-800. Let me explain what I’m going after. I currently do not have a footswitch for the parametric EQ. I’m looking for a two channel configuration where I can setup for a thumpy, bass heavy vintage tone and then switch to a more modern grind. Can this be accomplished just by switching the EQ in and out? Is the TT-800 just THAT much better? The TT would seem to fit the bill with the Boogie channel as my thump and the Subway channel as my grind. Thoughts as to how/why the TT might be superior? A lot of people seem to rave about the WD.

 

[lomo]

I currently have a WD-800. Let me explain what I’m going after. I currently do not have a footswitch for the parametric EQ. I’m looking for a two channel configuration where I can setup for a thumpy, bass heavy vintage tone and then switch to a more modern grind. Can this be accomplished just by switching the EQ in and out? Is the TT-800 just THAT much better? The TT would seem to fit the bill with the Boogie channel as my thump and the Subway channel as my grind. Thoughts as to how/why the TT might be superior? A lot of people seem to rave about the WD.

If you already have a WD800, another solution would be to add a pedal. Depending on your eq settings on the head and which pedal you choose/how you set it, the pedal could be either your modern grindy tone or your thumpy, bass heavy tone. The possibilities are endless. I set my SS head for clean tone with a bit of bass boost and usually use a 2 channel Sushibox bass preamp to have footswitchable access to 2 other flavors (one with big bass/barely a hint of overdrive and the other grindy with heavier OD).

 

[KevInDaBassment]

My suggestion too ^

The TT-800 is one of my dream amps, but if you already have the WD-800, I'd say using different pedals to get the tones you want will offer more flexibility (and probably less cost overall) in the long run. Tone is a subjective thing, and I'm sure the TT-800 is up to the task of what you want, but it'll be a lot easier to try and return a pedal if it's not your jam as opposed to an amp.

 

[MustangMan78]

I’m not looking for dirt. I’m really looking for the two separate EQ stacks (think a P bass setting and a Jazz bridge / modern preamp mid-heavy setting). In addition, the Mesa channel of the TT sounds enticing. Everyone raves about the 400, which it’s apparently built off of.

As for pedals, I’m not one for using them with bass. Everything is in my rack within the effects loop of my amp, even my Cloudburst (which kills me that there’s no rack version…lol). It gets switched by hand the rare times that I use it to emulate a cello. My Lexicon is there for 2-3 modulation patches which also get sparingly used and switched by hand on a per song basis. My whole rig is setup entirely on the premise that I have nothing at my feet and no cords running to the backline. If I add anything, it would probably be something like the Chandler Germanium Preamp.

 

[BGroovy]

I have a Wd800 and footswitch. It will just bypass the para EQ, not let you run two distinct settings. Unless the EQ flat is one of your preferred tones I don’t think it will work for your needs.

I use an HX stomp with patches built for those kind of sounds (with different amp sims)

 

[agedhorse]

The PEQ can indeed be used for generating a second “customized” tone or voicing. This works well provided the native voicing (with the bass-mid-treble controls) works for your primary tone. The footswitch is a 2 button with a TRS cable. A 1 button will not work.

If you are looking at the TT-800, be sure to try it because the two native voicings are different from the WD.

 

[75Ric]

I’m not looking for dirt. I’m really looking for the two separate EQ stacks (think a P bass setting and a Jazz bridge / modern preamp mid-heavy setting). In addition, the Mesa channel of the TT sounds enticing. Everyone raves about the 400, which it’s apparently built off of.

As for pedals, I’m not one for using them with bass ...

I have the TT and this is the way I use it, paired with either one or two SW115s. Pbass into the Boogie channel, jbass into the Subway. Works well for the music I play. If you want to use both basses on the same gig, you'll need to plug/unplug or use something like an A/B box as the amp has only one input that serves both channels.

 

[Avigdor]

This is exactly how I use my TT800. I set the boogie channel to a very clean round tone which I use with the neck pickup, then I set the subway to a more modern tone with the bridge pickup, balance out the volumes and away we go. I then use the eq on the bass if I need any fine tuning pn the fly. Note, I’ve not had it very long and am still in the experimental phase where I discover a new favourite setting every day, so take this with a grain of salt… Great amp!

 

[ole Jason]

Pedal in the rack is the easy answer. Even with the amp you'll have to press a button to switch things anyway.

 

[MustangMan78]

The PEQ can indeed be used for generating a second “customized” tone or voicing. This works well provided the native voicing (with the bass-mid-treble controls) works for your primary tone. The footswitch is a 2 button with a TRS cable. A 1 button will not work.

If you are looking at the TT-800, be sure to try it because the two native voicings are different from the WD.

That’s another plus for the TT, change bass and flick the switch on the head, no pedal needed as with the WD. I had a D800+ before the WD and loved the sound. I’m assuming the Subway channel on the TT is very similar?

From the above couple of posts, it sounds like I’m not the first to want to use the TT this way. I’m still trying to understand the pedal fetish!

 

[/\/\3phist0]

I’m not looking for dirt. I’m really looking for the two separate EQ stacks (think a P bass setting and a Jazz bridge / modern preamp mid-heavy setting). In addition, the Mesa channel of the TT sounds enticing. Everyone raves about the 400, which it’s apparently built off of.

As for pedals, I’m not one for using them with bass. Everything is in my rack within the effects loop of my amp, even my Cloudburst (which kills me that there’s no rack version…lol). It gets switched by hand the rare times that I use it to emulate a cello. My Lexicon is there for 2-3 modulation patches which also get sparingly used and switched by hand on a per song basis. My whole rig is setup entirely on the premise that I have nothing at my feet and no cords running to the backline. If I add anything, it would probably be something like the Chandler Germanium Preamp.

There is a whole world of rack pres to choose from!

WD owner from first batch here.
If you can get a tone you like with the WD bass / mid / treble (HPF too) with the PEQ flat ( certainly I can) than see if without touching the other controls arrive at a second tone you are desiring?

Then yes, the foot switch will get you there.

 

[logdrum]

A little bit of topic but I made an arduino driven attachment to a guitar amp with no channel switching, to twidle the knobs on a TrainWreck clone. I mainly did the servo programming my friend did the sheet metal work to hold the servos amd attach to the amp. I broke a pot shafts LOL, because the first servo was too high powered . This was inspired by Neil Young's Whizzer gizmo on top of his Tweed Deluxe, I also used part of the Arduino code from another person. I need to find pics of what we did. Smaller than Neil's and was front facing and less featured. . My buddy in San Diego has it This is Niels'

 

[Rev_Slinky]

I’m not looking for dirt. I’m really looking for the two separate EQ stacks (think a P bass setting and a Jazz bridge / modern preamp mid-heavy setting). In addition, the Mesa channel of the TT sounds enticing. Everyone raves about the 400, which it’s apparently built off of.

As for pedals, I’m not one for using them with bass. Everything is in my rack within the effects loop of my amp, even my Cloudburst (which kills me that there’s no rack version…lol). It gets switched by hand the rare times that I use it to emulate a cello. My Lexicon is there for 2-3 modulation patches which also get sparingly used and switched by hand on a per song basis. My whole rig is setup entirely on the premise that I have nothing at my feet and no cords running to the backline. If I add anything, it would probably be something like the Chandler Germanium Preamp.

To start with the pedals, I imagine it would be easier to layer a thumpy vintage tone over a relatively clean modern tone than the other way around. I get you're not into pedals, but if you can get that modern heavy-hitting preamp tone that you want on the WD, I bet you could throw a good Sushi Box pedal in front of it to add the vintage flavor.

The TT will certainly give you your two separate EQ stacks (with even more options through the FX loop, if you so desire). It's a great amp and I'm sure you'd be able to dial-in the tones you're looking for. I think there's a bit of "the grass is always greener on the other Mesa" that's hard to get away from. Everything sounds great and everyone seems to love what they love for their own boogie reasons. I've never tried the WD and am constantly curious about what specific wonder I am missing. Best of luck in your search, and let us know what you discover!

 

[MultiScaleMale]

I had a TT-800 and traded it for a WD-800. Love the WD, never bonded with the TT. I guess I wanted the TT to be a channel switching vintage / modern amp in one and that really isn’t what it’s designed to do. I have a D-800+ as well, so I can get the Subway sound and I didn’t really care for the Boogie channel. No offense, just not my thing. Love the WD.

 

[MustangMan78]

A little bit of topic but I made an arduino driven attachment to a guitar amp with no channel switching, to twidle the knobs on a TrainWreck clone. I mainly did the servo programming my friend did the sheet metal work to hold the servos amd attach to the amp. I broke a pot shafts LOL, because the first servo was too high powered . This was inspired by Neil Young's Whizzer gizmo on top of his Tweed Deluxe, I also used part of the Arduino code from another person. I need to find pics of what we did. Smaller than Neil's and was front facing and less featured. . My buddy in San Diego has it This is Niels'

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I love this! A home-engineered solution to a problem. Why? Because we can! I too tinker with Arduinos and RasPis!

 

[dannylectro]

I’ve had the D800, WD800, and now the TT800… and loved them all. But the TT is just perfect for me—I usually use two very different basses in one of my cover gigs: a Guild Starfire II for the round vintage sounds, etc. and a Fender Jazz with an Audere Pre for aggressive modern stuff. The Boogie channel on the TT is perfect for the Guild and Precision basses and the Subway channel is perfect for the Jazz, or really any other bass when you want a really focused sound.
Can’t recommend it highly enough!

 

[Killing Floor]

Any amp you don’t have is better than any amp you have. TT is great.

 

[DJ Bebop]

I currently have a WD-800. Let me explain what I’m going after. I currently do not have a footswitch for the parametric EQ. I’m looking for a two channel configuration where I can setup for a thumpy, bass heavy vintage tone and then switch to a more modern grind. Can this be accomplished just by switching the EQ in and out?

Yes!
I do that with my WD but I do have a foot switch. It varies as to which I use for what but yes, I usually switch off the mids, set up a tone with what is left, then switch in the mids and set up a counter tone with the 3 bands of mids. Lately I've been setting the mids off as my vintage tone, switched on mids is a more mid-forward sound that accents the grindy nature of the overdrive. Which depending on the bass can also brought in by uses the passive switch on active while the input is high for a smooth sound, on passive for more grind with the mids on.

May not make sence. I know what I mean and that's all that matters

 

[DJ Bebop]

Any amp you don’t have is better than any amp you have. TT is great.

 

[MultiScaleMale]

Hmm, I didn’t realize the WD had a foot switch. And I own one.