To the Group - I wasn't sure where to post this so I've opted for the general section -- if I've mis-posted, I'm sure the mods will straighten me out. A lot of folks here have talked about the merits of lines vs. no lines on a Fretless. There has also been some discussion of side dots ... how to add them, where to add them, whether to add them. I just learned (and implemented) something that has made all the diff in the world. Learning fretless can be pretty scary, especially with a no-line bass. As I fiddled around with fretless, I found that the hardest thing was the "no-man's land" between the nut and the 3rd fret (which is usually dotted on a fretless bass.) It's pretty scary in there! I was visiting my local GC and happened to pick up a Warwick fretless and noticed something -- in addition to having dots starting at the third fret and proceeding downward, the Warwicks also have a dot at the FIRST fret! Believe me, that makes a HUGE difference because it gives you a place to visually "split the difference!" I realize that over time, muscle memory kicks in and it's not necessary but as a fretless newbie, I found it to be a GREAT visual reference point. Now - if your fretless (or potential fretless) doesn't have that first dot, I found a solution to that also! Many have recommended white out, nail polish, or something else. Well, I found an EXCELLENT something else. A paint-marker. (Click here to see it) The paint doesn't run, its not messy, and because it's a fine-point pen, the dot is almost perfect. Check it out ... This solution may not work for everybody but it certainly worked for me. Just thought I'd share!