Thinking of trading my svt fridge for two 4x10 he, wouldnt it be the same sound because there all seales cabs just easyer on the back
Enjoy the benefits of a premium membership!
Upgrade Account
-
TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
Join free Log in
Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.
Fridge swap
- Thread starter Jgrabs07
- Start date
Nope. Love em or hate em, a fridge is a fridge.
Cabinet volume is cabinet volume and difficult to cheat. Not saying they will sound better or worse. Just that there will be sonic differences.
Plenty of people here run twin 410's, although I havent in a very long time. Do a search for some intelligent commentary.
Cabinet volume is cabinet volume and difficult to cheat. Not saying they will sound better or worse. Just that there will be sonic differences.
Plenty of people here run twin 410's, although I havent in a very long time. Do a search for some intelligent commentary.
Yes, its the same thing. A 410he is half a fridge. Having 2 provides a scaleable rig for smaller gigs and potentially easier load in (stairs). The tilt and roll design of the fridge works well for lots of people though.
An SVT 810 has four sealed volumes. It's the same as four sealed 210s.
Nevertheless, it doesn't matter if the internal volumes are separated. Two 10s in 40l have the same low-end rolloff as one 10 in 20l.
I have both. I will decide on my rig depending if I can get help hauling my 810 out from my house and into the truck. Otherwise, I will roll with twin 410HE's. Or rare occassion, I will stack the 410's on the bottom and the 810 on top horizontal.
I dont get any sound difference to my ear. Big is big!
I dont get any sound difference to my ear. Big is big!
acmebass
Commercial User
Hahahaha!
(okay, this one has ONE sealed volume)
(also: stop it, you're giving me ideas)
I've used two separate cabs before, and found that one larger cab works better for me - less trips, less lifting - although I don't have to deal with stairs all that often... I'd rather tilt&roll and til&slide one big cab - IME/IMO, it's far less effort than rolling, then lifting two smaller cabs...
- georgestrings
- georgestrings
No.
8 10s on one baffle is not the same as 4 10s on one baffle and 4 10s on another. They do not couple in the same way.
Like you already said, a fridge is a fridge.
Anyone who says they do hasn't A/B between the two setups in a real-world environment. I did it during a soundcheck once.
This would absolutely right, if it wasn't wrong
Each pair of 10's is sealed off from each other. It's essentially 4 2-10 cabs in one.
All the nerdy details aside I went from the 810 to 410he cabs. One thing I would suggest is buy them one at a time. I bought two and sold one because I never used it. I stack one cab on top of my rack so its as high as my 810 was and it makes everyone happy. It's loud to me and i can crank it and get the tone i like but my bandmates and soundguys don't ask me to turn down all the time like they used to.
My complaints about the cabs are few. One is the casters are pretty hard to remove. I normally transport it with the wheels on and stack it with them off. The other is the 8ohm deal. It's great used with amp that's powerful enough for the 810. But I've been wanting a lighter amp and being 8ohms rules out a lot of choices
My complaints about the cabs are few. One is the casters are pretty hard to remove. I normally transport it with the wheels on and stack it with them off. The other is the 8ohm deal. It's great used with amp that's powerful enough for the 810. But I've been wanting a lighter amp and being 8ohms rules out a lot of choices
Not 100% identical, because the 410he has a tweeter that takes over at 4k while the 810e ends up topping out at 5k. But if you bypass the tweeter and crossover network, then yes, they do sound identical since they use the same speakers, have the same approx. internal volume, and same sealed design.
This would absolutely right, if it wasn't wrong
That all share the SAME BAFFLE. If you want those 4 210 cabs to sound like an 810, you need the drivers to be mounted to the same surface. Then you will have an 810 made of 4 210s - otherwise, you have 4 210s. The frequency response graphs do not tell the whole story.
That is definitely not wrong.
it's spitting hairs, even two fridges don't necessarily sound the same.
I had two 810 fridges from the same era (early 80's recessed handles), one was a lot more used than the other, otherwise identical cabs.
the did not sound the same, close but not the same.
it would be interesting to do a blind test of two 410HE's (tweeters off) beside an 810HE in a band mix.
I doubt it would be obvious which was which.
I had two 810 fridges from the same era (early 80's recessed handles), one was a lot more used than the other, otherwise identical cabs.
the did not sound the same, close but not the same.
it would be interesting to do a blind test of two 410HE's (tweeters off) beside an 810HE in a band mix.
I doubt it would be obvious which was which.
I'm not getting the significance of the baffle. If internal volumes and speakers are equal, why would it matter if it were one baffle, two baffles, or four?
