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From Berg to Fearless?

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I have both a Fearful 1212/6 and a Bergantino AE410. Powered with an Epifani UL901c (2x900 watts) my experience with these is that they are about the same volume in practical applications. Neither really farts out with good power. The Fearful sound is much less colored, and deeper if that is what you are looking for. And the Fearful loves the watts. I have never played a show where either one did not have enough volume, and the Bergie weighs around 60 lbs, the Fearful closer to 70. I know these are not the cabs you are looking at, but throw these out there for some comparion.
 
#24
Really appreciate everyone's input. So far I'm inclined to stick to my current setup, as no one has suggested a system that is significantly smaller and lighter without sacrificing volume and bottom. In a perfect world I could one-arm a cab into a taxi and up the club stairs, with the other hand free to call my drummer and to see how late he'll be.

I will check out the Boom Bass Cab stuff, but not holding my breath that it will be a Berg 2x112 killer. Thanks all!
 
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Low Class said:
Since you're in DC you should go by Chuck Levins and check out the BBC cabs.

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I go to check out the 1212 version of this cab at a gig last week - a buddy of mine was playing through it with an Eden WTX500 i think. It was a small bar gig with no PA support. He was really pleased with how loud it was on stage, and it punched through just fine with a loud drummer and loud guitarist, but it didn't really have much bottom out front. He had the Eden turned up about 50%, which I know would have rumbled the house with two Berg 112s.

In short - sweet cab, but nothing I would replace my IP/HT112 setup with.
 
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azwipe said:
I go to check out the 1212 version of this cab at a gig last week - a buddy of mine was playing through it with an Eden WTX500 i think. It was a small bar gig with no PA support. He was really pleased with how loud it was on stage, and it punched through just fine with a loud drummer and loud guitarist, but it didn't really have much bottom out front. He had the Eden turned up about 50%, which I know would have rumbled the house with two Berg 112s.

In short - sweet cab, but nothing I would replace my IP/HT112 setup with.
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Thanks, I hadn't heard one myself so it's good to get an opinion from someone that's heard it in a performance situation. I still suggest the New York 151. Maybe not to replace your IP rig(although I have considered using it to replace my Bergs), but as a real good portable cab to add to your arsenal. It puts out a LOT of sound, a LOT of bottom, and real good tone. This is coming from a HT112ER x 2 user and former IP rig owner.
 
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This thread sounds a bit confused; which is normal because weight and tone are two somewhat disparate but equally important factors.

Neglecting weight, the Fearless and Berg cabs are both top flight cabs. As Tom stated, different versions of great. I suspect a given player would have to individually use them both on a few gigs before really knowing what is best suited.

If portability is a factor, and you are one handing a pair of cabs in and out of cars and trains on a regular basis; then I believe you would have to look hard at the Berg CN112, 28 pounds +/-, vs the Fearless F112, 38 pounds +/-. I would personally get a pair of the Bergs and see if they worked for me. As CL mentions, the F112 may indeed be capable of more displacement. But, at a cost of 10 additional pounds per cab, I would personally need to decide I needed it.

All depends on what the weight vs tone balance is. YMMV
 
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Low Class said:
Thanks, I hadn't heard one myself so it's good to get an opinion from someone that's heard it in a performance situation. I still suggest the New York 151. Maybe not to replace your IP rig(although I have considered using it to replace my Bergs), but as a real good portable cab to add to your arsenal. It puts out a LOT of sound, a LOT of bottom, and real good tone. This is coming from a HT112ER x 2 user and former IP rig owner.
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Some people dial in whatever sound they like. They may not want a lot of bottom... that is not a limitation of the cab. Just saying.

At the Gerald Veasley Bass Expo last weekend we had lots of people hit all of the models at well beyond gig volumes, tuned as low as low A. There was no shortage of low end. These were made to be single cab gigging solutions. I hope no one minds this counterpoint. As usual it's better to get your ears on something to decide for yourself. We welcome head to head comparisons with any of these other cabs. It's a great time for bassists.
 
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azwipe said:
I go to check out the 1212 version of this cab at a gig last week - a buddy of mine was playing through it with an Eden WTX500 i think. It was a small bar gig with no PA support. He was really pleased with how loud it was on stage, and it punched through just fine with a loud drummer and loud guitarist, but it didn't really have much bottom out front. He had the Eden turned up about 50%, which I know would have rumbled the house with two Berg 112s.

In short - sweet cab, but nothing I would replace my IP/HT112 setup with.
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Just curious, did the cab have a slanted baffle and lower mounted tweeter? The early 212 cabs (NLA) were ported, the current cabs have the slanted baffle and are sealed. They both take power well.
 
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azwipe said:
Yup, this one had the slanted baffle and lower tweeter.

I definitely dug the light weight and compact form factor.
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Thanks. To get a real idea of what these do, stop by Chuck's and test for yourself. They'll let you crank them. I recommend using an 800w amp to really open them up and set the cabs on the floor when you test them. They'll work with 500w for most gigging.

For the first hour of the Bass Expo people just walked by the cabs, presumably because they look like small 1-10 and 1-12 single driver cabs. As soon as someone cranked one up the booth stayed busy the rest of the show. Throw some heat at even the smallest cab, it might surprise you.
 

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