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From Russia with Love - Tonika project

Far from being turned off with anything from the Soviet Bloc, I'm strangely drawn to some of their technology and architecture, everything they did seemed to be a mishmash of Hi Tech and band aids and string.
For example take the Apollo capsule and compare it with the Voskhod/Soyuz capsules, one was cutting edge technology of the day, the other looked like it had been made in Jules Verne's day, and yet both US and Soviet capsules did what they were designed to do.
Then think about the TU-95, whoever in their right mind would build a propellor driven plane and put it on their front line in the age of the jet? The propeller tips tun at supersonic speed and is the fastest prop plane ever built. The Ekranoplan what is that, which other nation on earth would build that?
K.W. Jeter coined the phrase 'Steam Punk' and I'm convinced he had half an eye on Soviet technology at the time.
Although the STALKER series (of games) is set in Ukraine itself most of the architecture there is from when it belonged in the USSR and the eerie
models of the run down buildings have a uniquely Soviet feel to them and the same job lot of light blue paint that was ubiquitous in buildings, aircraft cockpits and on cars through the length and breadth of the Soviet Union.
You have to jokingly wonder whether these people arrived from another world as everything is so different in what they did.
@JIO most of your guitars are unique and very special, but I'd say this one is very special and you've done really well to acquire it and to nurse it back to former glory and if anyone has the skills to patiently restore it, it'd be you. You can see the history dripping off it in your minds eye where it would be played in 80's with a cheezy band wearing flares and tanktops with 70's haircuts in some smokey run down bar in Moscow or East Berlin.
It's an absolutely magnificent artifact, and it's fantastic that it hasn't been turned to firewood. Well done, and always looking out for your next project. :thumbsup:
 
Far from being turned off with anything from the Soviet Bloc, I'm strangely drawn to some of their technology and architecture, everything they did seemed to be a mishmash of Hi Tech and band aids and string.
For example take the Apollo capsule and compare it with the Voskhod/Soyuz capsules, one was cutting edge technology of the day, the other looked like it had been made in Jules Verne's day, and yet both US and Soviet capsules did what they were designed to do.
Then think about the TU-95, whoever in their right mind would build a propellor driven plane and put it on their front line in the age of the jet? The propeller tips tun at supersonic speed and is the fastest prop plane ever built. The Ekranoplan what is that, which other nation on earth would build that?
K.W. Jeter coined the phrase 'Steam Punk' and I'm convinced he had half an eye on Soviet technology at the time.
Although the STALKER series (of games) is set in Ukraine itself most of the architecture there is from when it belonged in the USSR and the eerie
models of the run down buildings have a uniquely Soviet feel to them and the same job lot of light blue paint that was ubiquitous in buildings, aircraft cockpits and on cars through the length and breadth of the Soviet Union.
You have to jokingly wonder whether these people arrived from another world as everything is so different in what they did.
@JIO most of your guitars are unique and very special, but I'd say this one is very special and you've done really well to acquire it and to nurse it back to former glory and if anyone has the skills to patiently restore it, it'd be you. You can see the history dripping off it in your minds eye where it would be played in 80's with a cheezy band wearing flares and tanktops with 70's haircuts in some smokey run down bar in Moscow or East Berlin.
It's an absolutely magnificent artifact, and it's fantastic that it hasn't been turned to firewood. Well done, and always looking out for your next project. :thumbsup:
I agree that it deserves to stay, as a witness to the time and place it came from.

I also agree that JIO is the one to do it.

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Fascinating, @JIO . Thanks for welcoming us along for the ride.

Might you name this a CCCP-bass? 😄
Thanks all! :) Yes, the "Triple C P-Bass" - well played! :thumbsup: :bassist:
 
I have the impression that these plastic badges of Lenin (and baby Lenin!) are pretty common. Probably flooded the market then for every man, woman & child in Russia. "...where's your Lenin badge comrade?"

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In case you're wondering, I moved the above posts from another of my threads. This post is from today -

As you can see, the fb separated at the 8th fret (top fret is a zero fret) which happened removing it. (no problem) I decided to ad my own modding and stained the light fb wood with ebony & red mahogany stain. I also sorted the grounding issue re-soldering a ground wire that broke loose. Once doing that, I found the rotary doesn't have an off setting - it seems to be another N setting(?) Not sure why that would be, but again I'll know more once it's back together and playable through an amp. I replaced the strap pegs with real strap pegs using the same screws and cleaned/lubed the tuners for fluid adjusting. Will need to get the frets and string-set before going further.

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Fun project. The staining looks great!
 
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The frets and strings arrived today and the last coat of satin poly is curing on the fb, so re-fretting/fb attachment begins tomorrow. In the meantime, I put the heavy 7lbs/2oz body on a weight reduction program ala forstner bits. The body is a fat 1-3/4" thick, so I went down leaving 1/4" at the base of each hole. Doing so, the 9lb/6oz bass lost 1lb, so the bass will now weigh in at 8lbs/6oz - the same weight as my '66 P-bass. I can live with that.

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This post is titled; you win some, you don't win some. I did my best to make this a playable bass, and it still could be one day. But all the work I did to preserve the neck wasn't enough - it's pretty much a lost cause. Re-fretted and fb re-glued, it has a giant ski-jump below the 12th fret. Adding to the reason why it's a lost cause is the plastic shell that conceals the neck/hs wood. At one point I considered stripping that shell off - but I've already invested too much time & energy. So for now it set up to look like a bass, but is not playable.

My future options are, one - to leave it like that, which I will do for the time being, and the other option is to get one of those cheap made-to-specs MIC necks and make it look like the original. Most likely what I will eventually do because once I got it somewhat playable - the pu's are strong. The electronics on the other hand are very confusing. Depending on the 4 positions on the rotary switch - the top knob/pot is a a volume (or not) and the lower knob/pot is a reverse-volume, or not. And the 1st and 4th setting are both the neck pu, but one seems to favor more bass - the other more treble. Otherwise each pu can be individually favored along with both together, it's just the rest that's wacky.

So for now - I'm leaving it as is. Dealing with these old basses is always a risk and up to now I've had success, but this neck just has too many things wrong with it. It's the bottom line if interested in them - everything else can be fixed but if the neck is garbage.., walk away.
 
Dang that’s such a shame.

I vote for new neck since the one you have won’t work, but if it stays a wall hanger for you…so it goes!
Knowing me (!) I'll do a replica neck. The body is cool enough on its own, but to be able to rock it... once again, a challenge. I have replicated a vintage ss neck before...

(my restoration) Egmond Rambler - made in Holland in the late '60s - 24 frets and strange fb dot spacing based on an actual Rambler fb. This neck was custom made by SF master luthier Dan Ransom to original vintage specs. Sold it earlier this year - someone has a great little thumper!

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I vote for putting a new neck on it made to look like the original. I immediately felt a sense of loss when I read your post on the neck being unsalvageable. Personally, I'd probably also explore the maximum bridge spacing that can be accommodated by the pickups and shape the new neck to match. I've played exactly one Tonika in my life, pretty much identical to this one, and one of the playability issues to me was the nearly consistent 12mm string spacing from nut to bridge. :smug: (I exaggerate, but yaknowhadimean)

These are such unique beasts in so many ways and a new neck would go a long way to solving many playability issues IMHO. If anyone on this forum can make it look like the original, it's @JIO 😍
 
I vote for putting a new neck on it made to look like the original. I immediately felt a sense of loss when I read your post on the neck being unsalvageable. Personally, I'd probably also explore the maximum bridge spacing that can be accommodated by the pickups and shape the new neck to match. I've played exactly one Tonika in my life, pretty much identical to this one, and one of the playability issues to me was the nearly consistent 12mm string spacing from nut to bridge. :smug: (I exaggerate, but yaknowhadimean)

These are such unique beasts in so many ways and a new neck would go a long way to solving many playability issues IMHO. If anyone on this forum can make it look like the original, it's @JIO 😍
The heal is 2-3/8" tapering to 2-1/8", nut 1-5/8" and it's 31-1/4" scale (15-5/8" zero-fret to 12th fret. It also has a deep heal-block (1-3/4") so this is not a generic fit. Then there's the stripes on the fb. I imagine I could just have the fb made of maple and stain the black & red leaving the maple as the stripes and do a clear coat on top. In that regard, making it fretless might be the way to go. Ric bound fretless's have a similar vibe going on.

But if I had Dan make the neck, he could use ebony and mahogany and maple stripes. (no staining) That would be a pretty fancy neck for this body.

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