Has anyone completed module 3? Did you find value in it? I'm on lecture 3-3. The first two lectures were just ok - it was a lot of review of stuff I already know, but no earth shattering new info for me.
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Full Stack Bassist Group (Scott's Bass Lessons).
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In the context of my earlier comments (post #62 - https://www.talkbass.com/threads/fu...tts-bass-lessons.1662950/page-4#post-28785005), here's a handful of questions for you (and everyone else, I guess):
- Regarding the stuff you already knew going in, has your depth or breadth of understanding of that stuff been clarified/improved/solidified?
- Has your ability to deploy/exploit/use what you already knew improved through doing the foundational stuff that you seem to be saying you did find value in? In other words, do you now play your old stuff better than you did?
- If 'Yes' to 1 or 2, do you attribute this improvement to the course content to date and the ways it has been taught/presented, or simply to the fact that you have been playing/practicing more?
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1. 100% my understanding of what I'm playing and why has improved. Module 1 & 2 definitely taught me a lot. I mostly learn songs by tab - memorize and regurgitate it. Now I understand what I'm playing and why, and I'm much more capable of venturing off the memorized tab and adding something to the music.
2. Better is arguable, but I definitely play it differently. And I actually understand why I'm playing certain things as opposed to just rote memorization and limited/no understanding of why.
3. I already practiced a lot, but I mostly was learning new songs or playing along with tabs that were harder for me, which I used to expand my knowledge/technique. So I attribute my improvement to course content.
I would suggest if your new-found understanding of what you are doing and how that contributes to the music makes you play with more confidence and authority then you are a better player. YMMV.
Just checking in.
I started the Major Pentatonic lesson about 20 days ago.. The shapes given are limited as it applies to fret board real estate. This makes them easy to memorize and apply to different roots.
What have you been doing for 20 days then?
Well I've extended those patterns across and up and down the neck. I then play them using the circle of 4ths starting with the same root on each string. This is giving me a better feel for the patterns regardless of the position on the fret board. To be clear about what that looks like, I start with C on the E string and play the extended C Maj pent. patterns from there. I then move to the A string find C and play the patterns from there (including the notes on all strings). Do the same with the D and G strings again starting from the root found on those strings. When I'm done with the C root, I move to the F root and so on around the circle of 4ths.
While doing this I try to mix it up and groove a little, so I'm not just running up and down the scale repeatedly.
I'm moving on to the Minor Pentatonic lesson now. This should go a bit quicker. Same patterns, different root placement.
"From the point of ignition
To the final drive
The point of the journey
Is not to arrive
anything can happen
Basic temperamental
Filters on our eyes
Alter our perceptions
Lenses polarize
Alternating currents
Force a show of hands
Rational responses
Force a change of plans
anything can happen"
-Rush
I started the Major Pentatonic lesson about 20 days ago.. The shapes given are limited as it applies to fret board real estate. This makes them easy to memorize and apply to different roots.
What have you been doing for 20 days then?
Well I've extended those patterns across and up and down the neck. I then play them using the circle of 4ths starting with the same root on each string. This is giving me a better feel for the patterns regardless of the position on the fret board. To be clear about what that looks like, I start with C on the E string and play the extended C Maj pent. patterns from there. I then move to the A string find C and play the patterns from there (including the notes on all strings). Do the same with the D and G strings again starting from the root found on those strings. When I'm done with the C root, I move to the F root and so on around the circle of 4ths.
While doing this I try to mix it up and groove a little, so I'm not just running up and down the scale repeatedly.
I'm moving on to the Minor Pentatonic lesson now. This should go a bit quicker. Same patterns, different root placement.
"From the point of ignition
To the final drive
The point of the journey
Is not to arrive
anything can happen
Basic temperamental
Filters on our eyes
Alter our perceptions
Lenses polarize
Alternating currents
Force a show of hands
Rational responses
Force a change of plans
anything can happen"
-Rush
I'm still having a great time with this program, although I am very very far behind now! Typically I practice 30/45 min with Fretboard Accelerator, 30/45 min with Full Stack, and if it's not too late I play some songs. Some of the arrangements at the end of each module (Scott's examples) are very challenging but I'm learning a lot.
I’m still here plowing through at a snail’s pace. The last week I took a break and worked on songs primarily.
I’m in no big hurry. I’m enjoying the program and by digging deeper into the concepts presented in the course, but outside of the course, I’m learning a lot. I guess that’s the goal right.
I’m in no big hurry. I’m enjoying the program and by digging deeper into the concepts presented in the course, but outside of the course, I’m learning a lot. I guess that’s the goal right.
I've been so bogged down with gigs, rehearsals, and life. Though, I'm on lesson 3 in Mod 5. I've breezed through this material pretty quick. I'm kind of hoping the Style Masterlcasses will be "next level." I'm getting a little bored with these. Not to say they're not important or well done, but I'm pretty competent in this section. I need a challenge.
I'm working on "Groove, Time Feel & The Rhythm Section | Part 1."
Ian is teaching this one, and since I’ve already watched some old SBL YouTube videos of him teaching similar material, the content has been percolating in my head for a while. Most of the work has been learning the baselines he’s providing here.
Prior to this, I had scrolled all the way back to one of the pentatonic lessons. I enjoy going back and revisiting earlier lessons. It really helps solidify the material.
I semi-skipped the slap and picking sections. Those are going to take me a while, particularly slap! Once I'm a better player in general, I'll revisit those.
Ian is teaching this one, and since I’ve already watched some old SBL YouTube videos of him teaching similar material, the content has been percolating in my head for a while. Most of the work has been learning the baselines he’s providing here.
Prior to this, I had scrolled all the way back to one of the pentatonic lessons. I enjoy going back and revisiting earlier lessons. It really helps solidify the material.
I semi-skipped the slap and picking sections. Those are going to take me a while, particularly slap! Once I'm a better player in general, I'll revisit those.
Heard SBL announced the second cohort for the FSB. Any updates from people here who are still working at it? Worth the price of admission? Anything of note to add regarding your experience in the program?
I’m in FSB. If I could go back in time with the knowledge I have now, I’d sign up much faster this time.
It’s a very well done comprehensive bass curriculum that will give you a solid foundation.
Even with the extensive lessons provided, you’ll need to do some supplemental studying here and there. They really couldn’t cover everything in depth or the course would be impossibly long.
The instructors have significant experience in front of the camera and do a great job presenting the material. They don’t goof around like they do in the free SBL YouTube content, but they aren’t dry or too serious either.
I think the only negative for me is the lack of a live study group suitable for most Americans. I think in my time zone they are either 2am or 2pm. You can watch the recording later but I can’t get through the first few minutes without feeling my time is better spent elsewhere.
My playing has gotten exponentially better, plus I’m more aware of my blind spots and weaknesses.
YMMV and all that.
It’s a very well done comprehensive bass curriculum that will give you a solid foundation.
Even with the extensive lessons provided, you’ll need to do some supplemental studying here and there. They really couldn’t cover everything in depth or the course would be impossibly long.
The instructors have significant experience in front of the camera and do a great job presenting the material. They don’t goof around like they do in the free SBL YouTube content, but they aren’t dry or too serious either.
I think the only negative for me is the lack of a live study group suitable for most Americans. I think in my time zone they are either 2am or 2pm. You can watch the recording later but I can’t get through the first few minutes without feeling my time is better spent elsewhere.
My playing has gotten exponentially better, plus I’m more aware of my blind spots and weaknesses.
YMMV and all that.
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Appreciate the response, I signed up myself in hopes that I can fill in the gaps of my playing. I was thinking about creating an external study group somehow for others in my timezone. I might post the idea in the FSB forum and see what others think.
I need to update my earlier reply: the group lessons are actually really good now.
Last night I watched a replay of one of the recent group lessons. It was completely different than the early ones. The instructor was ready to go, had created a backing track for the lesson and presented some solid info. He answered a few questions that came in via text chat. It was about 30 minutes long and was definitely worth my time.
I no longer feel left out because I’m in US time. The replays are fine.
Last night I watched a replay of one of the recent group lessons. It was completely different than the early ones. The instructor was ready to go, had created a backing track for the lesson and presented some solid info. He answered a few questions that came in via text chat. It was about 30 minutes long and was definitely worth my time.
I no longer feel left out because I’m in US time. The replays are fine.
@OlyWhite Out of curiosity which session (Module #) were you referring to in your reply from earlier today? Have you watched both instructors or do you prefer one over the other (Craig Strain vs. Eric Willis)?
Is anyone else besides @OlyWhite still taking the classes? Due to work, band stuff and golf season (my other main hobby) I've fallen way, way behind on FSB.
I liked what I had taken so far, and still incorporate aspects of it in my playing, so I'm determined to get back to it. I'm actually going to start over at the beginning this week and relearn/refresh my knowledge. I'm hoping to fly thru the first 2+ modules that I have already taken, and then buckle down on the remaining modules.
I liked what I had taken so far, and still incorporate aspects of it in my playing, so I'm determined to get back to it. I'm actually going to start over at the beginning this week and relearn/refresh my knowledge. I'm hoping to fly thru the first 2+ modules that I have already taken, and then buckle down on the remaining modules.
I just signed up, looking forward to trying it out!
The one I liked was Eric Wills. The Tuesday 3rd June PM Session if you are curious.
I just clicked on Craig’s latest to see what his lessons are like and all I can say is WHOA THATS A LOTTA PURPLE!
I'm still stuck on module 1, but have done some of the later technique modules as well - stuff which I have done on a previous SBL accelerator course. The timing was bad with the course starting just before the Christmas holidays which made it difficult to keep up due to other comittments. I'm just taking my time - I find I get to about 80 to 90% good on the excercises, but I make a note of excercises to come back to. I have fallen into the trap of trying to perfect an excercise and spend far too long on it. You have to balance getting the excercises perfect versus making some progress through the module.
The practice sessions seem to lag the content as well which is good because I thought I was way behind - I just watch the replays as the live times usually never work for me.
Overall I would spend the money if you want an online course that is thorough, and at least has a thought out curiculum. There is a much more than a year's worth of material for a lower intermediate player like me.
The practice sessions seem to lag the content as well which is good because I thought I was way behind - I just watch the replays as the live times usually never work for me.
Overall I would spend the money if you want an online course that is thorough, and at least has a thought out curiculum. There is a much more than a year's worth of material for a lower intermediate player like me.
