funkadelic - one nation under a groove

Discussion in 'Recordings [BG]' started by KYJazzy, Jul 5, 2008.

  1. KYJazzy


    Nov 10, 2004
    Lexington, KY
    I think I heard perhaps my most ideal bass tone yesterday. It was at the beginning of groovallegiance. at least I'm pretty sure, it was my friend's cd and I can't remember anymore.

    is there anyone who knows who played on that track or what equipment they used? sounded like the most smooth groovy fretless bass I've ever heard.

    oh, and this album is awesome.
  2. Marcury

    Marcury High and Low

    Aug 19, 2007
    Mid Hudson Valley, NY
    It's Bootsy, Baby!
  3. KYJazzy


    Nov 10, 2004
    Lexington, KY
    Hiow did he get that sound? It was like my dream tone.
  4. jerry

    jerry Too old for a hiptrip Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 13, 1999
    Rodney Skeet Curtis and Cordell Mosson are also on that album. I've always loved the bass tone on Groovallegiance.
  5. HashbrownCOBM


    May 6, 2008
    The bass line on "Flashlight" is a keyboard. I was so bummed when I found out.
  6. DanielleMuscato


    Jun 19, 2004
    Columbia, Missouri, USA
    Endorsing Artist, Schroeder Cabinets
    I don't know, but that's one of my favorites, too :)
  7. phunku


    Jan 9, 2008
    London, England
    well check this live vid of Flashlight, it most certainly ainta keyboard, but one of the most awesome tones ever, fat but also defined!

    i think it is one of those 2 P pickup BC rich basses.

    i seriously want that tone!
  8. HashbrownCOBM


    May 6, 2008
  9. HashbrownCOBM


    May 6, 2008
    Sounds like a passive bass with a little bit of a phaser with a wee boot of distortion. But that might just be coming from the speakers and how loud he's playin. Lots of mid's. Don't be afraid to use mid's. That whole scoop sound where it's just bass and treble and no mid's just don't work. You can hear the E string and the G string. If you don't want to hear the A and the D just take them off cuz that's effectively what you do when you use the "scoop" eq.
  10. Oric


    Feb 19, 2008
    Lexington, Kentucky
    When I saw them live for the Fourth, they played Flashlight, and it certainly wasn't a keyboard then. Their bass player was good. It wasn't Bootsy, but hey, can't have it all. They also played Atomic Dog, using bass instead of keyboard.
  11. HashbrownCOBM


    May 6, 2008
    Go back two posts please.
  12. KYJazzy


    Nov 10, 2004
    Lexington, KY
    Okay, I'm rebumping my old thread since I found out that I WAS actually listening to "groovallegiance" - that bass tone is so sexy - what I want to confirm is that that is a fretless for sure?

    Possibly just a fretless jazz bass? I really love that tone. Never played fretless but now it seems inevitable.
  13. Starrchild


    Nov 10, 2000
    The Bay.
    Rodney "Skeet" Curtis using an Alembic.
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  14. Rhastapopolus


    Jan 12, 2012
    Hey Starrchild,

    Thanks for clearing that up. I've read a lot of people saying that this bass performance is Bootsy, and it most definitely isn't (don't get me wrong, Bootsy is phenomenal, that's just not his sound). Any idea what kind of Alembic it is? (or, phrased better, is that the typical Alembic fretless sound? It sounds a lot different than my Tony Franklin Fretless P-Bass -- much more subtle, which I really appreciate. I have a hard time playing fretless in a funk setting, when I have to lay down the groove).

    Sorry to revive a moldy thread =( I wish it wasn't so hard to find information on P-Funk's various ensembles!

  15. markjazzbassist

    markjazzbassist Supporting Member

    Apr 19, 2005
    Shaker Heights, OH
    skeet, he's the more jazzy of all the bassists in p-funk.

    my favorite record is uncle jam.
  16. FilterFunk

    FilterFunk Everything is on the ONE!

    Mar 31, 2010
    Agreed. It seems like P-Funk was an aggregate of incredible musicians who didn't particularly care about who got exact credit for anything, so we may never know exactly who played what. IIRC, Boogie is the only bassist credited on "Funkentelechy," but it's hard for me to believe that Bootsy didn't play bass on any of those songs. Bootsy is credited as the drummer, but come on...he was one of the hottest bassists, and maybe the hottest funk bassist, at the time, but all he did was play drums on "Funkentelechy"? I know he was busy with his own band, but if he's going to contribute to Parliament, wouldn't it be primarily with his bass? I agree that "Groovallegiance" doesn't sound like Bootsy, but I've heard too many songs credited to others that sound straight out of Bootsy's playbook.
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  17. markjazzbassist

    markjazzbassist Supporting Member

    Apr 19, 2005
    Shaker Heights, OH
    if you listen to enough p-funk you can tell the difference between the bassists. s

    skeet plays all the super fast stuff and has a super trebly tone think steel wounds jazz bass. he's the most "jazzy" of the cats.

    bootsy has a couple signature licks he does in most things and he's the slapper/popper guy. if it's envelope filter or fuzz it's bootsy as well.

    boogie is the basic groove cat, he sometimes used a wah but not much from what i can tell. basically if it ain't bootsy or skeet, it's boogie.

    lige curry is the later stuff like 1980+. billy bass was before bootsy so anything early 70's.
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  18. Starrchild


    Nov 10, 2000
    The Bay.
    Skeet, played "Grooveallegiance" and "Who Says a Funk Band Can't Play Rock?" From "One Nation Under a Groove" "Oh, I" from The Electric Spanking of War Babies.

    When the Baltimore crew toured with George, O'BOY! That crew had Skeet playing Bass and Dennis Chambers on Drums. Now that was P-Funk at It's Zenith.imo
  19. Starrchild


    Nov 10, 2000
    The Bay.
    He also played on P-funk live at the Beverly Theatre.

    I'm sure he played on more tracks. These will give you a good idea on what to listen for.
  20. Nightman

    Nightman If it ain't low, it's got to go! Supporting Member

    Jun 3, 2013
    Atlanta, GA
    'I’m really into the Scriptures. I read and study the Bible on a regular basis and I try to let it influence my life as much as possible and influence everything that I do'

    Now, it don't get any better than that!!!
    That's top, Starchild.