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Fuzzrocious Club - Sextuplet

#621
I got the "doesn't do clean" memo but the "clean" demo on the website isn't clean. That is the magic tone for me but it doesn't spill the beans that it's way below unity to do that tone.

Noon knob position is meaningless without the pedal in your hands. All the youtube demos I've seen are hardout with no film of knob positions.
 
#622
Downunderwonder said:
I got the "doesn't do clean" memo but the "clean" demo on the website isn't clean. That is the magic tone for me but it doesn't spill the beans that it's way below unity to do that tone.

Noon knob position is meaningless without the pedal in your hands. All the youtube demos I've seen are hardout with no film of knob positions.
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Got ya. Again, I apologize if I came across as rude. I reread what I posted and thought it may have come across that way.
 
#624
I wound up putting it into my highpass loop. It's kinda compromising as it needs more lows to make it drive than my Behemoth so I can't get quite the same awesomeness out of the Behemoth but it's near enough.

Putting M82 envelope after BDPG in the high pass is so choice too. I can't wait to plug it all into the PA rig. Some major tweaking is going to have be done to get all the gains in line but it's now doable.
 
#625
Downunderwonder said:
I got the "doesn't do clean" memo but the "clean" demo on the website isn't clean. That is the magic tone for me but it doesn't spill the beans that it's way below unity to do that tone.

Noon knob position is meaningless without the pedal in your hands. All the youtube demos I've seen are hardout with no film of knob positions.
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Remember too that everyone's bass has a different flavor and output, so Allen's "clean" tone w/ the BDPG is not necessarily going to be your clean tone. Clips and video, etc. are a case by case scenario. I've bought a few pedals based upon demos, got them to into my rig, and been totally underwhelmed. It happens!
 
#626
Aw come on, just admit the blurb isn't as revealing as it could be and get on with changing it.

I tried hotting up & cooling down the input signal. Every which way it loses a mess of level in getting it to do the mild drive. All you got to do is put the bypass tone in front of the demo tone to show what is what. It sounds great but it drops the arse out of it. No wonder a lot of them are being used always on.
 
#627
Hey downunder, where are you putting it in your chain? I can't give advice cause I don't have mine but I know when I do get mine it'll go at the end of my chain somewhere. Probably second to last. That may change once I get it and I start moving things around and see what sounds better where.
 
#628
My bdpg does wonders with everything I use it with. I use it as an effect, not always on. Makes my distortion jump out crazy cool like! I have recorded with the bdpg "clean" and by not digging in the grit wasn't very present. I thought Ry's description of the bdpg was spot on. Even the demos showed me all the stuff going on. Great pedal that needs no change. IMO
 
#629
I have slotted it into my highpass dirty loop, the envelope might get put after the blender or leave it in the highpass.

Chain is bass> tuner> BDDI deluxe> internal fx loop, octave> Rolls xover> dirt > blender, blend back lows > other pedals > Loop return , deluxe out > EQ> BDDI or vice versa at the end depending on if I am doing my own sound or DI'ing to FOH

Just be aware that as a mild overdrive it takes away a lot of gain.
 
#630
Downunderwonder said:
Aw come on, just admit the blurb isn't as revealing as it could be and get on with changing it.

I tried hotting up & cooling down the input signal. Every which way it loses a mess of level in getting it to do the mild drive. All you got to do is put the bypass tone in front of the demo tone to show what is what. It sounds great but it drops the arse out of it. No wonder a lot of them are being used always on.
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Yeesh...did I do something to warrant that first sentence? If so, please let me know. If you don't want to make it public, please send me a personal email. I've read my responses and gave pretty solid, respectful, and informative. If I'm off-base, I'm all ears.

I still feel the description on the site "is what the pedal is."
 
#631
yaksonator said:
My bdpg does wonders with everything I use it with. I use it as an effect, not always on. Makes my distortion jump out crazy cool like! I have recorded with the bdpg "clean" and by not digging in the grit wasn't very present. I thought Ry's description of the bdpg was spot on. Even the demos showed me all the stuff going on. Great pedal that needs no change. IMO
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Where is yours in your chain yak??
 
#632
rratajski said:
Remember too that everyone's bass has a different flavor and output, so Allen's "clean" tone w/ the BDPG is not necessarily going to be your clean tone. Clips and video, etc. are a case by case scenario. I've bought a few pedals based upon demos, got them to into my rig, and been totally underwhelmed. It happens!
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rratajski said:
Yeesh...did I do something to warrant that first sentence? If so, please let me know. If you don't want to make it public, please send me a personal email. I've read my responses and gave pretty solid, respectful, and informative. If I'm off-base, I'm all ears.

I still feel the description on the site "is what the pedal is."
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You tried to pass off gear variance as the reason I didn't get was I was expecting. The real reason is the blurb is not explicit enough.

There is a disconnect between saying the pedal doesn't do clean and posting a demo of a "clean" tone that is still hairy, therefore not a clean tone and not subject to the disclaimer that clean cannot be acheived without gain loss. Easily fixed.

It's still my second favourite pedal.
 
#634
Downunderwonder said:
There is a disconnect between saying the pedal doesn't do clean and posting a demo of a "clean" tone that is still hairy, therefore not a clean tone and not subject to the disclaimer that clean cannot be acheived without gain loss. Easily fixed.
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This conversation is getting a bit hairy! ;)

I think the inverted commas are supposed to indicate that it's not really clean, just as clean as it can get. Like you say, it already states it doesn't do clean.

Illustrated by Avril Lavigne:
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#636
"You tried to pass off gear variance as the reason I didn't get was I was expecting."

Woah dude, hold up a second. I really dont think he is trying to "pass off" anything. Its a practical response to the question at hand IMO. No reason to be the way this seems to be getting.
 
#640
Downunderwonder said:
I don't have a problem giving it straight when I feel I've made valid points and those points were ignored. The only reason I raised it is to help others make well informed decisions.
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Doin' my best here, man. I'm truly sorry you feel your points have been ignored (I take it that you mean by me?). I'll change the wording on the clip for you as soon as I get some time. Fuzzrocious isn't my main job...just a side thing. I don't "run" this thread (nor should I, since it would violate the TB CUP). I try to reply when I can, where I can as best as I can.
Everyone experiences and interprets things differently. Thank you for your points/input.

EDIT: Update --- the BDPG description for Allen's (Tigerbass) hosted clip to further denote that his clean is not clean. Hope this helps!
 

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