fx to replace a guitar player :)

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by mactac, Dec 1, 2005.

  1. mactac

    mactac Supporting Member

    Nov 28, 2005
    Victoria, BC, Canada
    OK, so our 4-piece band (2 guit, bass,drums) is likely dropping 1 guitar player, so we will now be a bass,drums and guit/singer


    sometimes when the guitar player is singing, the guitar drops out & I'm lef ton my own...which is fine most of the time, but for some songs, we are really going to miss the rhythm guitar as far as filling up some of the sonic space & excitement

    I'm looking for an effect that will help out this situation...

    i'm thinking maybe some sort of effect that adds an octave above with good tone... what's the best for this?

    any other ideas? chorus would be an obvious, but sometimes chorus is not appropriate

    the band i play in does mostly rock... think tragically hip, neil young, and some more driving stuff.
  2. Get your guitarist to learn to sing and play at the same time, problem solved :p
  3. go for a chorus pedal or something like that give a more volumetric sound
  4. lookjojoisplaid


    Oct 17, 2005
    San Diego
    The effect you want is gonna come from you playing more drivey lines and the drummer doing allot of cymbol work. No effect will help you
  5. mactac

    mactac Supporting Member

    Nov 28, 2005
    Victoria, BC, Canada
    1. the guitar player can play & sing at the same time, just sometimes there is some tone that is missing

    2. yes, drivey lines, etc etc. of course. BUT sometimes an effect WILL help ... that's why they exist.

    i don't really want this to turn into a "fx are good/bad" thread...there are too many of those already... i just had a pretty simple question....
  6. rhett


    Dec 23, 2004
    Austin TX
    akai unibass
    there was one in the classifieds for cheap.
    otherwise a you might be able to achieve the same effect with a digitech whammy and a seperate distortion combo
  7. Scottie Johnson

    Scottie Johnson

    Sep 8, 2004
    Learn how to play a 12 string (4 & octaves) and add some mild overdrive or distortion.

    Maybe try a POG with bass. This:

  8. Aj*


    Jun 14, 2005
    West Yorkshire, UK
    If you can afford it, POG all the way.
  9. phxlbrmpf


    Dec 27, 2002
    You might want to check out the Unibass, but personally, I didn't like its distortion sound much, I thought it sounded a bit cheesy. Using another distortion pedal together with the Unibass may probably fix this, though.
  10. I get some guitar sounds with an octave up on my synth. as mentioned, the pog is great, but you could tweak synth to sound pretty close. I have done this on both micro bass and the the digitech bass synth (green). Only works if the parts call for a bit o fuzz.
  11. Christopher


    Apr 28, 2000
    New York, NY
    If the basslines aren't too complex and your drummer isn't thrown by playing to a prerecorded bassline, you could try getting something like a Boss Loop Station or Lexicon Jam-Man and layering some lines on top of each other.

    Then again, the guitarist could do the same thing and you wouldn't have to spend any money.
  12. Jimbo


    Dec 4, 2000
    Philadelphia, PA
    +1 on the unibass

  13. haujobb


    Dec 16, 2004
    Sadly, in a situation like that, you just gotta play more.

    We had 2 guitarists for a while, I was stuck playing root notes and simple lines. When we went down to one guitarist, it left lots of room for more complicated lines and chords.
  14. I often use my Akai Unibass when playing with my little band(Bass/Drums/Guitar).
    This box has been made to drop one guitar..
    If you can get one for cheap, go ahead.
  15. ArwinH

    ArwinH run rabbit run

    Dec 1, 2005
    Southern California
    To fill up the sound during solos I've been using a big muff with high tone and sustain settings so that all of the bottom drops out and I'm left with a very guitaristic sound, I then mix it with my clean signal with a boss ls2 pedal. Works like magic for me.
  16. syciprider

    syciprider Banned

    May 27, 2005
    Inland Empire
    Effects, two amps, and lots of fills :bassist:
  17. octive pedal, and do lots of runs.

  18. thejohnkim


    Sep 30, 2003
    the me-50b also does an octave up and has a distortion that affects only the octave up keeping your low note clean......check out the demo video for a demonstration, i don't own the unit, but thought you might be interested
  19. Joe P

    Joe P

    Jul 15, 2004
    Milwaukee, WI
    Yes - this is very similar to the "UniBOSS method". The LS-2 and a distortion pedal would take the place of the extra distortion-channel guitar amp that's mentioned in my example here:


    The advantage of adding the CEB-3 is that you get a little pitch-shift that very-much makes it sound like a seperate instrument (I know what you said about chorusing, but it really doesn't sound like chorus when used this way), AND you have the low-cut function to knock-out the lowest octave or-so. It works very well.

  20. Fealach

    Fealach Guest

    Apr 23, 2003
    Gone to a better place
    But the tough part is finding an effect that suddenly starts playing in another key and claims "we've always done it that way." Or an effect that forgets when its solo comes in and steps all over the vocals. And of course, this effect's volume knob has a ratcheting mechanism so that it can only be turned UP.

    Until then, there is no replacement for the guitarist.