Gallien Krueger Club. GK Rules !

[Jason Hollar]

The ability to control volume level and tone in the drive circuit independently is what sets the Legacy's implementation apart from others I've used, and gives it a much broader range of use cases. In contrast, for example, my Tonehammer pedal results in a huge volume increase when the drive (I think they call it gain on the pedal) circuit is switched in, limiting its usefulness as an effect to be used in a specific song section, or even between songs.

+1

I'm able to go from a warmer, mild gain boost to a pretty full-on distortion with quick twist of the drive knob on the Legacy.

However, it's usually set straight up and I sometimes dial back on the passive bass volume to reduce gain.

Fortunately these Legacy heads have the headroom to make those adjustments.

if had had money, tell you what I'd do…

Keep my 1x12 combo for pub and polite gigs. Keep my extra 1x12 speaker for an outdoor stack.

Buy a 1x15 combo for my fender P. Buy 2x10 for the funky 5 string.

And hopefully they come out with a 10 for the upright!

 

[MRSKI]

So I have had the Legacy 800 for about a week now and am happy with the tone. However another small issue has come up with the addition of the clip light never coming on even with hot active basses and excessive hiss when the trim control is dimmed. When the fan kicks on it is creating a mum through the speaker cabinet but when the amp is muted it stops. Anyone else notice this? Do you think I have a yellow piece of fruit?

 

[nervous]

I have been using the MB210 combo and MB500 with a a variety of cabs for many years and love them. I recently bought a Legacy 500 and like it very much. But, set up as the manual recommends I can barely get the master off zero with a 4 ohm cabinet. It's a loud 500 watts and I can't imagine how loud the 800 watt version is. I guess the answer is to turn the trim back a bit to allow a bit more master. I do find it difficult with an active bass to get the clip light to come on even at the trim all the way up as recommended so that's not an issue. Just curious how folks set theirs. It would seem you'd want to get into the main more.

 

[TomB]

Try between 11 and 1:00 on the trim knob, depending on your "clean" goal. It eliminates hiss and gives you leeway with the master volume control. The gain setting doesn't effect the DI output to my knowledge.

 

[MRSKI]

Got the trim knob issue resolved. 1:00 does the job by eliminating the hiss issue with still plenty of headroom with the master. What about the hum coming from the speakers when the fan is running. The fan itself is not noisy by itself but the hum is a little annoying. Mum goes away when the amp is muted.

 

[Solude]

Mum goes away when the amp is muted.

That tracks

 

[MarkA]

...NL 2 Speakon connecters come on...

When I bought my Fusion 800 rig a couple of years ago this made me nuts. Also means you cannot use older GK cabs with new heads. Unless I am missing that you can use 1/4 inch speaker cable somehow. Grrrr

Are you talking about the older, bi-ampable cabs? I think that you can run them full range with a regular, 2-conductor speaker cable and think that a normally-wired cable with NL-2 or NL-4 connectors should work fine for them. @rag (or anyone else who knows for sure), is this correct?

More generally, Speakon NL-4 female connectors will take an NL-2 male connector, but not the other way around. If your cabs have NL-4 connectors and the amp NL-2, you should be able to use an NL-2 cable to connect them. If your cabs have 1/4" connectors, there are NL-2 to 1/4" cables (though I'd prefer Speakon for a higher-wattage Class D head like this).

I haven't played the Legacy or Fusion heads and don't know why NL-2 was chosen (I would guess there was some reason -- maybe so that people wouldn't try using the four-conductor biamp cables with these heads -- I am not sure what issue, if any, would result from doing so, but the 700/1001 RB manual, warns, on page 7, not to use such a cable with non GK [keep in mind the date of the manual] cabs).

NL-4 would seem to be more flexible (you could use NL-2 or NL-4 cables), but I think that you should be able to use an NL-2 cable to run the amp with older GK cabinets.

 

[_Obra_]

I recorded my Legacy 800 from Line Out straight post EQ to audio interface today.

When Trim set to around 3-4 o'clock for a passive P bass, the sound is great. However, the input signal to audiointerface is very loud. For ''normal'' recording volume input, Trim needs to be at around 10-11 o'clock.
There is no separate Volume pot that controls only the Line out signal.
Does Trim then lose its meaning?
Isn't it designed to be turned on as much as possible until the signal goes to the clip for the best sound?

 

[flojob]

I bought a mesa tt800. I just can't get a sound that 8 like out of it.
Anyone know of a place in Austin that can fix an MBF800?
Or anyone want to trade tt800 for a Fusion 800?

 

[musicmansf]

Got the trim knob issue resolved. 1:00 does the job by eliminating the hiss issue with still plenty of headroom with the master. What about the hum coming from the speakers when the fan is running. The fan itself is not noisy by itself but the hum is a little annoying. Mum goes away when the amp is muted.

I also notice Legacy 800 fan hum through my cab. Oddly enough, it seems like the amp triggers the fans faster at lower volume than higher volumes (aka bedroom volume vs rehearsal volume). Doesn't bother me. I think of it like background transformer hum on a tube amp.

 

[Geddyfleaharris]

Are you talking about the older, bi-ampable cabs? I think that you can run them full range with a regular, 2-conductor speaker cable and think that a normally-wired cable with NL-2 or NL-4 connectors should work fine for them. @rag (or anyone else who knows for sure), is this correct?

More generally, Speakon NL-4 female connectors will take an NL-2 male connector, but not the other way around. If your cabs have NL-4 connectors and the amp NL-2, you should be able to use an NL-2 cable to connect them. If your cabs have 1/4" connectors, there are NL-2 to 1/4" cables (though I'd prefer Speakon for a higher-wattage Class D head like this).

I haven't played the Legacy or Fusion heads and don't know why NL-2 was chosen (I would guess there was some reason -- maybe so that people wouldn't try using the four-conductor biamp cables with these heads -- I am not sure what issue, if any, would result from doing so, but the 700/1001 RB manual, warns, on page 7, not to use such a cable with non GK [keep in mind the date of the manual] cabs).

NL-4 would seem to be more flexible (you could use NL-2 or NL-4 cables), but I think that you should be able to use an NL-2 cable to run the amp with older GK cabinets.

Yes I still have a couple of the earlier Neo cabinets. 2x12s. They have speakon and 1/4 inch connection. Just have never gotten rid of them. Your post is logical. When I bought my Fusion combo and extension cab I didn't even think about an extra cable. I had lots at home only to find out the new series are NL-2. Which I didn't even know was a thing. lol

 

[Count Bassie]

Rehearsed with the GK 200RB tonight. Frickin amp is killer.
Working on an 800...

 

[AudioTaper]

I've been wanting a bigger cabinet that can handle whatever situation I may need (which won't involve in-ears or PA support so don't get started on that....) Current rig is a pair of Eden D112XST and a few heads to choose from (GK 400RB-III, Mesa TT800, Eden WT400) and I'm not opposed to getting a larger GK head or a power amp to run the 400RB into.

Pros and cons to a GK Neo 412? There's a used one locally at a reasonable price. Besides the weight and size, anyone have anything to say? I play a mix of music, aggressive with a pick and slap, effects, 5-string.

 

[Geddyfleaharris]

I've been wanting a bigger cabinet that can handle whatever situation I may need (which won't involve in-ears or PA support so don't get started on that....) Current rig is a pair of Eden D112XST and a few heads to choose from (GK 400RB-III, Mesa TT800, Eden WT400) and I'm not opposed to getting a larger GK head or a power amp to run the 400RB into.

Pros and cons to a GK Neo 412? There's a used one locally at a reasonable price. Besides the weight and size, anyone have anything to say? I play a mix of music, aggressive with a pick and slap, effects, 5-string.
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I ran 2 x 2x12 cabs for years. So, same as this split into 2 cabs. I think GK 12 inch speakers are great. Used that set up for years. Other than the weight of one big cab I can't think of any negatives. I would have bought one of these if one had ever popped up locally or if one of the local stores has one. My current set up still features 4x12 inch GK speakers. Just the Neo IV series.

Is it 4 ohms? Or....?

 

[AudioTaper]

I ran 2 x 2x12 cabs for years. So, same as this split into 2 cabs. I think GK 12 inch speakers are great. Used that set up for years. Other than the weight of one big cab I can't think of any negatives. I would have bought one of these if one had ever popped up locally or if one of the local stores has one. My current set up still features 4x12 inch GK speakers. Just the Neo IV series.

Is it 4 ohms? Or....?

It's a 4 Ohm. So it could get 800 Watts from the Mesa head.
Two 2x12 would be better, but the cost would be much higher.

 

[nitrofix]

Hey Guys, have a question for you. I have a Gallien-Krueger Legacy 210 bought it 3 years ago and has always sounded Great, the problem I'm having now is when I hit certain notes, the G on the 12th fret of the G string, a C on the 3rd fret of the A string for example i get a noticeable buzz but when I hit the E string and pretty much all the way up on the E string it sounds fine..Has anyone else had this problem or ever heard of this problem..Any input would be much appreciated...Thanks

 

[groovaholic]

allien-Krueger Legacy 210 bought it 3 years ago and has always sounded Great, the problem I'm having now is when I hit certain notes, the G on the 12th fret of the G string, a C on the 3rd fret of the A string for example i get a noticeable buzz

If you have a looper pedal; play a sequence of the notes that buzz, then have it repeat as you move your head around the amp to see if you can locate the source of the buzz.

If that's not an option, I'd recommend going around the amp and ensuring all screws are snug.

When I bought a used MB210 last month, one of the 10" speakers had a mild voice coil rub - it needed to be replaced.
[IMO this wasn't a manufacturing flaw; the driver had been removed at some point then reinstalled incorrectly, which I suspect distorted the frame and caused the issue]
Anyhow, the looper method is how I located and corrected the issue.

 

[nitrofix]

Forgot to mention it's a combo, I have checked all the screws on the amp. speakers.When I play soft it's find but when I dig in is when it happens but pretty much only on this note. here is the sound I was talking about

 

[groovaholic]

Forgot to mention it's a combo, I have checked all the screws on the amp. speakers.. here is the sound I was talking about

Hmmm...sounds like it could be an issue with the tweeter.
Try switching the horn off (on your back panel) and see if the buzz goes away.

 

[nitrofix]

Hmmm...sounds like it could be an issue with the tweeter.
Try switching the horn off (on your back panel) and see if the buzz goes away.

That's Exactly what it was, I thought I had turned it off by pushing the button down but the middle section is off the bottom section is low with up section being High... I definitely owe you a Cold One for that advice, Thank you...