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Gallien Krueger neo 112/410
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I wouldn't personally run a GK Neo 410 + 112 combination strictly speaking from a power distribution standpoint - that setup would be so limited by the 112 that the 410 on its own would likely perform better, but to each his/her own.
I did run a pair of GK Neo 112-iis for a bit and it was quite respectable, notable even when factoring the weight and price, but I've since moved on. Still consider it a very capable, solid rig though.
I did a head-to-head between my two GK Neo 112-iis and a single Fearless F112 with my 700RB-ii, and that was it. I ended up pulling the trigger on the more powerful Fearless F115 just for peace of mind, but to my ears comparing that single F112 vs the GK pair wasn't even close to a fair match.
If price is a concern, as it usually is (I sold 4 of the 6 cabs I owned at the time including those GKs in order to help fund the Fearless purchase, and it still didn't cover it), then there's obviously still a very strong case to be made for the GK Neos - I still recommend them frequently, and compare them very favorably to most other cabs I've tried.
If price is a concern, as it usually is (I sold 4 of the 6 cabs I owned at the time including those GKs in order to help fund the Fearless purchase, and it still didn't cover it), then there's obviously still a very strong case to be made for the GK Neos - I still recommend them frequently, and compare them very favorably to most other cabs I've tried.
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GK Neo 410: $800
GK Neo 112: $450
Grand Total: $1,250
Fearless F115 from Scabbey Road (just as an example): $1,195
Even a new GK Neo 112 Pair is $900, and I can tell you that IMO my F115 sounds at least $295 better. YYMV, but a pretty good deal if you asked me.
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While I've never tried it, I own two of the Neo 112 II's and have played a Neo 410. While a 112/410 combo could work brilliantly, it's the last combination of cabinets it would have ever crossed my mind to try. If for some bizarre reason I decided to try it, the result would undoubtedly exceed my expectations because they would be so low. 
Two 112 II cabs will be very impressive and much better balanced in many ways. The Neo 212 and 112 actually pair well (odd as that seems) and will easily give you all the volume most folks could ever want/need. The Neo 410 is a great cab, but voiced much differently than the 12" loaded Neo cabs.
Two 112 II cabs will be very impressive and much better balanced in many ways. The Neo 212 and 112 actually pair well (odd as that seems) and will easily give you all the volume most folks could ever want/need. The Neo 410 is a great cab, but voiced much differently than the 12" loaded Neo cabs.
Well, that's a bit of a tricky question because everybody's live volume needs are different, but for me personally I see it like this:
I would say that my F115 is more than powerful enough to hang with any acoustic drummer I've ever played with, so in theory if a venue is large enough for the drums to need to be mic'd - and the PA can handle drums, then the PA should be able to be used for bass reinforcement as well.
So short and sweet answer: any venue with PA support.
My theory may break down from a monitoring standpoint once you get to arena sized stages and dense mixes - seeing as I recently participated in a thread (this one) where a user was saying he needed a larger rig for monitoring when he's 20-30' (!) from the rig outdoors, but otherwise I think it holds up pretty well. It certainly hasn't failed me personally yet, and I play in a relatively loud rock outfit at small to medium sized venues, with an outdoor/medium-large venue thrown in every now and then ([Invalid or Expired Link Removed] is my idea of a medium-large venue).
Edit in an effort to keep this thread at least still somewhat relevant to the page title - I considered my GK Neo 112-ii pair rig to also fall into the same category of "any venue with PA support" as well.
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Al Kraft
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I'd have to agree with this with the mutually clear caveat that when you start getting to stage areas the size of a soccer field it would be reasonable to expect that there will be professional sound techs and appropriate technologies/products to deliver sound to the audience and support monitoring functions for the performers (e.g. personalized monitor feeds in individual wedges or via IEM). In the enormous venues where I have played, all I really needed was my instrument and any effects I wanted to have in line before the DI.
