• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

GAS for a Squire!?!?

'Squire' is an actual word in English ... 'Squier' is either a typo when they founded the company, or they just decided to name it differently. Not sure. Anyway, though, I think people type 'Squire' so often because it's a real word in English.

Liam

Ah thanks, didn't realize that. :o

I'm so used to the brand name Squier that I didn't knew that squire is the proper spelling for a medieval servant.
 
Off topic: Okay, english isn't my first language. But why do most people spell it Squire instead of Squier?:confused:

Is that a joke I don't get, or just an annoying common typo?:p


If I was ever goint to make instruments I'm gonna use the name Squirrel... Squirrel Basses. :ninja:
Now that would be interesting around these forums.:smug:

Because the English spelling is SQUIRE and the origin of the word is generally accepted as the name of somebody who was a servant of the aristocracy or lord of the manor in feudal times.

Apparently, Fender wanted to use the name SQUIRE as the brand name for their budget range, but it was already taken as a brand name so they changed the spelling to SQUIER.

Back on topic, I tried a Squier Precision 5 String in a shop about 3-4 years ago and bought it on the spot. It cost me £125 brand new - 3 of my other basses are in the $2000-$3000 price range and while the Squier is obviously not in that league, it's nearer to them than it has any right to be at the price
 
'Squire' is an actual word in English ... 'Squier' is either a typo when they founded the company, or they just decided to name it differently. Not sure. Anyway, though, I think people type 'Squire' so often because it's a real word in English.

Liam

Ah thanks, didn't realize that. :o

I'm so used to the brand name Squier that I didn't knew that squire is the proper spelling for a medieval servant.

If I remember correctly, Squier was the family name of the string company that Fender bought out.
 
My band played a show near Detroit, MI. We had some time to kill so I stopped by the Guitar Center in Dearborn, MI and the Squire Vintage Modified P-bass caught my eye. I picked it up and jammed for a few minutes. Honestly, this thing played amazing. The Duncan pickups sounded beastly and the action was really low and clean.

Did I hear you right? You actually found a bass in a GC that had low action? Are you sure you wern't in the twilight zone? :eek:

Seriously though, I've noticed that the quality level is way up on the Squier VM series of basses. They are probably better than the USA basses Fender sold in the 70's. I remember those 70's basses being pretty funky (funky in a bad way). I'm going to pick one of these up just to have a backup for my 62RI P bass. I was thinking of getting an SX, but the fretwork on the Squier seems better and the PU for sure.
 
Did I hear you right? You actually found a bass in a GC that had low action? Are you sure you wern't in the twilight zone? :eek:

Seriously though, I've noticed that the quality level is way up on the Squier VM series of basses. They are probably better than the USA basses Fender sold in the 70's. I remember those 70's basses being pretty funky (funky in a bad way). I'm going to pick one of these up just to have a backup for my 62RI P bass. I was thinking of getting an SX, but the fretwork on the Squier seems better and the PU for sure.

+1 for low action! But now that I'm back home in Chicago, I'm hesitant to see what the exact same bass would play like - the one on the floor in MI had a bunch of scratches on the pickguard - seemed like it had been sitting on the floor for a while, possibly had a setup in-store. We all know that all Fenders play differently - especially right out of the box at GC.
I don't see myself going to buy the exact same bass - I think this one was just particularly awesome.
 
squier is a surname...

Invalid Link Removed

the new squier guitars and basses are getting close to the quality of the old Japanese models. really quite an achievement!
Thanks Joe. Squier is no different than Fender, Gibson, Martin, Taylor, etc...it's a guy's name. I wonder if Billy Squier had this much trouble getting his name spelled right when he was a popular musician.

It really blows my mind when stories like this pop up
Apparently, Fender wanted to use the name SQUIRE as the brand name for their budget range, but it was already taken as a brand name so they changed the spelling to SQUIER.
...the sad thing is that there's probably more people that think this story is true than people who know that Squier was the man's last name.
 
If I remember correctly, Squier was the family name of the string company that Fender bought out.

You are 100% correct on that. The very first instruments imported under that name were from Japan and I think were made by the Ibanez parent company, they were damn good. I was in retail at that time and we sold every one we could get in stock.

The P and J basses were every bit as good as what Fender USA was doing at that time and cost 1/3 less. Domestic sales for regular Fender basses fell sharply as everybody figured out how good the new (at that time) Squire stuff was. Fender USA saw it too and they changed the Squire stuff over to Asian production and the quality went down. That was 20 or so years ago and the Asian manufactures were not what they are today.
 
You are 100% correct on that. The very first instruments imported under that name were from Japan and I think were made by the Ibanez parent company, they were damn good. I was in retail at that time and we sold every one we could get in stock.

The P and J basses were every bit as good as what Fender USA was doing at that time and cost 1/3 less. Domestic sales for regular Fender basses fell sharply as everybody figured out how good the new (at that time) Squire stuff was. Fender USA saw it too and they changed the Squire stuff over to Asian production and the quality went down. That was 20 or so years ago and the Asian manufactures were not what they are today.
let's not forget the brief stints Squier production had in Mexico and The States!

I thought the JV and SQ series were manufactured in the Fender Japan factory, not Ibanez - the later Japanese models (Silver Series etc) were Fender Japan products.
 
+1 for low action! But now that I'm back home in Chicago, I'm hesitant to see what the exact same bass would play like - the one on the floor in MI had a bunch of scratches on the pickguard - seemed like it had been sitting on the floor for a while, possibly had a setup in-store. We all know that all Fenders play differently - especially right out of the box at GC.
I don't see myself going to buy the exact same bass - I think this one was just particularly awesome.

I went into a local GC once and the guy was pulling a new Fender Jazz Bass Deluxe out of the box. He didn't even tune it, just stuck it up there. I grabbed it and was totally blown away at how smooth and tight it was. That bass played perfect, was in tune, and the action was super low right out of the box. Man, I was BUMMED! I wanted that bass! I had serious GAS and I was broke :crying:

If i'd had the money, it would've gone home with me that day. One week later, it was gone.
 
I went into a local GC once and the guy was pulling a new Fender Jazz Bass Deluxe out of the box. He didn't even tune it, just stuck it up there. I grabbed it and was totally blown away at how smooth and tight it was. That bass played perfect, was in tune, and the action was super low right out of the box. Man, I was BUMMED! I wanted that bass! I had serious GAS and I was broke :crying:

If i'd had the money, it would've gone home with me that day. One week later, it was gone.

Interesting. Yeah, I'm kicking myself because I DID have the money, it's just that we had a show that night and I didn't have much time to consider the purchase - of course all the way home the next day I was thinking about it. Weird.
 
let's not forget the brief stints Squier production had in Mexico and The States!

I thought the JV and SQ series were manufactured in the Fender Japan factory, not Ibanez - the later Japanese models (Silver Series etc) were Fender Japan products.

Si, I forgot about the mexi Squire's. We are both right. I was referring to the early Squire JV (japanese vintage) series which were made from original Fender drawings in the FujiGen factory who was at that time an OEM for Hoshino Gakki (Ibanez). Lots of USA parts on those and "if" you can find one BUY IT! They had a Fender logo with small Squire logo.

I had to jump over to wiki and check as my memory ain't what it used to be. VERY interesting reading if you look at the Squire section.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squier