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GC is unbelievable

burk48237 said:
I worked in Retail management for eight years and worked as a retail supplier for about 16 years, so HERE'S MY RANT. If you wanted customer service why were you walking into GC? I use to call on K Mart and many customers would complain to me (I wasn't an employee) about the lack of service. My initial thought would be, you don't want service, if you did you'd be at Neiman Marcus. Most Americans say they want service but refuse to pay for it. What you really wanted was a good price from some minimum wage guitar jockey.

If you wanted Service you would have been at Bass NW (for example), or driven to Low Down sound. Companies that sell on price, GC, Wal Mart ,do it by having minimal payroll expense. In my area with the exception of management, GC turns over it's staff about every three months. Your not going to establish a rapport with a salesperson in those conditions. The guys at Low Down will call me when something shows up that I might have interest in. Your not going to find salesman who know there stuff and are helpful when their always in training. So next time you go there, climb up on the ladder and pull it down yourself, you'll get it cheaper that way and that seems to be what it's all about! :crying:

Agreed. I work in customer service orientated industry also. I would just add my $0.02 and ask why the management of GC would tolerate their staff standing around and chatting? Especially when there are customers with perhaps some money to spend wandering around on their own?

It's not the staff's fault, its their management. If a retail outlet is operating poorly at the management level, you probably won't get much after-sale support and loyalty recognition either.

Simple - vote with your feet.
 
abngourmet said:
I keep it simple. I walk in with an Alembic. Doesn't matter what I'm wearing.
I've tried this approach, it always fails. Every GC I've been in (Boston MA, Albany NY, one in NYC, Towson MD and Rockville MD) has refused to let me bring my own instrument into the store. I was told it was a "company policy" to prevent me swapping my bass for one on the wall and walking out.

This is probably the biggest reason I won't shop at guitar center. Ever one I've been to has this belife that they are doing you a great favor by letting you even be in the same building as all their wonderful instruments.

This is not the case, there are other places to spend money at, I always manage to find what I need without going to GC.
 
Tash said:
I've tried this approach, it always fails. Every GC I've been in (Boston MA, Albany NY, one in NYC, Towson MD and Rockville MD) has refused to let me bring my own instrument into the store. I was told it was a "company policy" to prevent me swapping my bass for one on the wall and walking out.

This is probably the biggest reason I won't shop at guitar center. Ever one I've been to has this belife that they are doing you a great favor by letting you even be in the same building as all their wonderful instruments.

This is not the case, there are other places to spend money at, I always manage to find what I need without going to GC.

I've never had this problem at GC. The one in Raleigh didn't want me to take the case in, but I told them it was a $5K instrument, that I didn't wan't to take it in in the open, that I'd open the case up again upon departure etc., and then they (the nice young lady at the front of the store, anyway) agreed to let me take it in. I did so, opened the case back up on my way out, and it wasn't a problem. Also, Alembics (new ones, anyway) have their serial number on the truss rod plate, as well as in the control cavity. I make it a habit to have them record it so as to avoid confusion.

Besides, how are they going to mistake a garden variety Fender for an Alembic Dragon's Wing? Even they can't screw that one up (I hope!).

And there are no instruments that they have at the GCs I've been to that I'd even remotely think about swapping an Alembic for. Sorry!

Alan
 
Granted I've never used an Alembic. The nicest bass I've taken in was a BC Rich USA Mockingbird, still leagues above anything they carry in GC.

I guess I need to buy a really nice bass to take with me when I want to go try basses?

Oh by the way, if you can afford that many Alembics, what the hell were you buying at guitar center??????? :eyebrow: :eyebrow: :eyebrow: :eyebrow: :eyebrow:
 
xring said:
I may try later this evening. The Bongo is too good to pass up......

Which is why nothing is really done to improve CS at places like GC.

As far as what I would have done, I would have walked up to the counter and asked to buy it. I don't need to stand around and be waited on. This is my MO when buying anything.

-Mike
 
Wow, you guys are so lucky... Aisles in your music shops! Things stacked so high you need ladders to get to them! People working in the shop! heck, there's only a couple of music shops for about 50 miles around, until you get to the "capital" of this so called country (Which by the way has 3x more sheep than people) and both of these music shops are just a couple of battered squires and a few guitar amps.

man, it sucks living in Wales! The whole country is 1/6 the size of London. You'd be lucky to get a response even if you hit one of the shop workers around here :bawl:

In the last 3 years they've only ever had 1 Line 6 bass and 2 Warwicks. Everything else is Squier! I've never seen an EB in real life before.
 
realdeal said:
One reality is, that with certain lines they carry- EB/MM, Ampeg, SWR, etc- GC is so large, they pretty much are going to be your best bet for new gear. It would be nice if the few independent stores that remain could match their pricing, but generally, they can't.

I don't mean to bust your chops but I don't think this is true at all. Bass Central and Chuck Levins both offer deals on Ernie Ball Basses that put GC to shame.

Oh...and amen on the supervisor comments. Those guys know what we don't want to know--that GC is listed as a tech stock, has growth targets to meet in order to maintain share price, and is run basically like any other dot.com.
 
I've read this thread and thought about what everyone is saying.
I don't like to be bugged when I'm browsing,BUT, when I stand in one spot thats an idication I want some thing. If the sales staff can't figure it out I walk.
I will not pay some one a commission by buying something for ignoring me and chatting. If I have to chase them down to get help and buy the item then I am rewarding them for failing to do their jobs.
I have walked away from some nice deals doing this, how ever in the long run I'm usually better off. In my experiance the items sold by places that have that type of staffing are usually sub par. Plus the after sale support is usually non existant.
 
abngourmet said:
I keep it simple. I walk in with an Alembic. Doesn't matter what I'm wearing. Even the most "high end challenged" average GC employee recognizes quality (and expense) when he/she sees it (well, that's been my experience anyway). Once they see me with an Alembic, they can't do enough for me. I guess they figure if I can afford that, I can pretty much buy anything I want (I can't, but it doesn' hurt to have them think that! ;) ).

Alan
You bring in a bass so that you can get service? What a pain in the ass, especially if you're there to try out other basses.

Mike
 
Dr. PhunkyPants said:
I don't mean to bust your chops but I don't think this is true at all. Bass Central and Chuck Levins both offer deals on Ernie Ball Basses that put GC to shame.
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Doc, I totally agree insofar as buying elsewhere than from GC-I've talked w/Beaver at Bass Central about EB/MM, and they do give great pricing (no sales tax out of state helps too)--
Problem is, I like to play the instrument I'm going to own, even if I know theirs are new in the box-Plus, not to defend or promote GC, but if the staff does their job, they match any verified price you bring. Then again, that was the original point of the thread....IF the staff did their jobs....... :confused: Hmmmmm......
 
Got it. Hard to argue with the "try before you buy" school of throught--my Sterling have WAY different tones, despite being fairly similar in appearance.

Well, I guess we have to hold out for a Coke to emerge as GC's Pepsi, someday. The lack of an external competitor in the industry seems to have bred complacency in the workforce.
 
One of the problems at GC that can lead to poor service is their "operational" policy, and I think their overall philosophy of selling.
Instead of hiring a knowledgeable & motivated sales staff, and paying them a respectable wage plus a commission, they pack the floor and pay minimum wage- The bulk of their sales come from the low-end gear, the $200-400 range guitars and amps, usually for beginners and hobbyists, and then from accessories, a seperate department.
A lot of the time, as was posted, the Sales people stand around and BS with each other.
The real proficient and dedicated workers there will either be promoted to Store Management....or get work elsewhere!
 
silent method said:
Why should sales people have to guess how you want to be treated? Working in retail you start to learn a few things. Some people hate being approached and are of the mind set that "if i want help i will ask for it" this is espically true of someone who seems to know what they are looking for. Others demand quick and curtious service.

Now if you had been in looking at this a number of times I would asume you are just looking again and want to be left alone.

Is it that much trouble for you to ask for help?

agree
 
There's no justification for a customer's being ignored like that when there are staff available.

I was shopping for ski boots one time on a lunch break and went into a now-defunct ski shop. It was a slow time; there might've been one other customer in the store. The four or five guys working there, though, couldn't be bothered to stop impressing each other with their hairiest runs at Killington or Gore and help me choose some boots, even when I walked over to the counter and waited a few minutes. I figured then I might as well walk out because I'd probably get better service at their competitor's store a couple miles up the road. And I did. I wasn't surprised when that first store eventually went out of business, because other people told me they had very unhelpful experiences there also.

I've been ignored at GC, too, and yet at other times in the same store, I've gotten much better service than I expected. Go figure. ;)