Hmm...yeah it's him
1:27 - 1:30 is sketchy...
but that growl baby...
Like I said before, it might sound weird on its own but it's fine with the drums.
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Geddy's YYZ track isolated. Yum!
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Like I said before, it might sound weird on its own but it's fine with the drums.
It's just funny in this case, because I've always heard those dubs - they really stand out in that track.
Then again, I was a hardcore Rush fan and would always listen with headphones in a quiet room to get all of the nuances.
I think it's the real deal. Otherwise, as a couple of other posters said, somebody has totalled copped Geddy's sound and technique.
These are the real deal. You can search on youtube and get the iso tracks from all the songs featured in the game by now I'm sure.
I also think these are from Guitar Hero and not Rockband.
I also think these are from Guitar Hero and not Rockband.
Damn this sounds like my jazz bass. I think he punched in fills with the Rick though.
Also, there is automation on the punched tracks so they are louder and may sound odd if you are not in studios a lot or producing records.
I would say J Bass for the main part..distorted of course. That just sounds like "the tone" that I go for when I play rock and the J bass plays a big role.
Also, there is automation on the punched tracks so they are louder and may sound odd if you are not in studios a lot or producing records.
I would say J Bass for the main part..distorted of course. That just sounds like "the tone" that I go for when I play rock and the J bass plays a big role.
I wonder how often he has to have his basses refretted? I'll bet he kills strings very quickly too.
I read in an interview in a recent issue of Bass Guitar Magazine (the UK mag, edition #40) that he had the neck replaced on his '72 J with a neck from one of his signature basses because the original neck had been refretted too many times and couldn't take another one.
Here is he said:
We had to change the neck out on it, after I dressed the frets one too many times and the neck wouldn't take it anymore! They replaced it with a neck from one of the Geddy Lee signature series basses - there isn't a real difference.
He went on to say he sanded down the back of the neck so it would feel like the old one worn in one.
I remember when Moving Pictures first came out a friend & fellow bassist who was much more into Rush than I kept insisting that it was the other way around: that the bulk of the tune was the 4001 but the solos were the Jazz.
Although, it's been a long time, maybe he did mean what you said. Anyway, he definitely insisted that the solos were a different bass than the rest of the tune. And who am I to argue w/ a Rush fan?
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+1As to the track being isolated, thanks! I now feel even more inadequate as a bass player....
john turner
You don't want to do that. Trust me.
that's an awesome find - the isolated tracks from guitar hero. they probably used the original tracks of the song - you're hearing the mic bleed in the background from the other instruments.
john turner
You don't want to do that. Trust me.
a lot of folks thought that the ric was on a lot of mp because of the videos that they did for the songs - a few of them had him playing the ric in the vid. the fact is, though, and ged has said so himself, all the songs that had vids of him playing the ric from MP were actually recorded using the jazz.
As a rock-band-player-born-bassist, I can assure you that this is authentic. If you go in to "practice" mode, you can choose a slower speed to play the song. If you choose a speed less than 100%, it will solo the instrument that you're playing. My main use of the game now-a-days is going on bass in practice mode (so I can hear the bassist's tone, hehe). They use master tracks in the game so that they can accurately "chart" the notes and so that if the player on that instrument is doing badly, they can cut out that instrument track as if it wasn't being played. I must say, these games are quite useful to real musicians. They open the door to master tracks. Without them, we never would have heard the bass on ...And Justice For All! 
...I must say, these games are quite useful to real musicians. They open the door to master tracks. Without them, we never would have heard the bass on ...And Justice For All!
Ah, you can hear the bass on And Justice For All, lost in the midrange, but it is there...and if you want to know what to play, lust play exactly what James plays, only an octive lower...
As to the Geddy tracks, why don't bands make this stuff available, or sheet music for that matter?
I think it is Geddy, and Geddy is a raw player in many respects. When I was a younger player I used to listen to the Rush records and think he was very articulate and refined. For a while in the mid/late 1980's Geddy did clean up his technique some, but he as playing basses like Steinberger's and Wals...they have a lot more output than a Ric. This lead to a different tone and technique. The thing is that, and I am pretty sure he stated this in a couple interviews, that he was not really satisfied with the tone of those instruments versus the Jazz or Ric...they were almost too tame. So, he went to the Jazz, and went back to really hammering the bass. His technique is very aggressive, and there is some slop in there. This does not diminish Ged in any way...I love his playing, and Rush is my favorite, but if you are learning Rush, especially something like YYZ or La Vill Strangiato, realize that to cop the lick exactly there are points where you essentially have to cop a mistake or flubbed note. This is Geddy, but it is not always best to learn things exactly...especially when you are just starting out...his technique is very unique, and probably not best to emulate as a new player.
Now, as to recording. I have done some recording, but not a ton. I find that I usually break it down into shorter sections...especially on complicated tunes. That is not to say that I have not dialed up a sound, and recorded a song in a single take...I have, but it is the exception. Remember though, back in the day Rush toured constantly- record, tour, record, tour. This is epitomozed by them recording the song Xanadu in a a single take. That is really impressive, but it also shows the power of knowing your parts, and rehearsing a lot before recording. As to punching in the fills in YYZ, I always thought they were punched in. Listen to the radical change in tone, and it has to be. It was not like he had a Sansamp PSA in those days.
So, dig Geddy for the great playing and vibe. The man is unique. Also, having played some Rush in cover bands I would suggest that you learn the song as close as you can while playing it cleanly and articulately. It will sound better than a sloppy but perfectly accurate line, IMHO.
Mark
Ah, you can hear the bass on And Justice For All, lost in the midrange, but it is there...and if you want to know what to play, lust play exactly what James plays, only an octive lower...
As to the Geddy tracks, why don't bands make this stuff available, or sheet music for that matter?
Simple...they do not write the tunes out in sheet music form. If they do, it is probably a simplified chart/outline. Also, this is one of the reasons I gave up on sight reading (I kick myself). All the stuff I wanted to play was either not available in sheet music form, or the transcription was so horribly wrong as to be worse than useless.
