Here's a question. I have a 1.75" body blank. I'm having it planer to 1.5" to match the thickness of my Punisher and to save weight. Thoughts?
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Here's a question. I have a 1.75" body blank. I'm having it planer to 1.5" to match the thickness of my Punisher and to save weight. Thoughts?
It a very small body to start with taking the little off wont make much difference. I checked out a punisher at a NAMM show in Atlantic City some time around 1991. They said it was actually Genes. It was without question mush thinner then the LoBue. It felt like a toy with all this thick mirror plexie crap on the top I didn't like it. I guess its made to look good when the spotlights hit it
"planer"
I think you just hit the word on the bevel issue.
Charlie likely planed down the top of the guitar down when the old rosewood fingerboard was stripped off and left just enough of a channel to paint the binding in.
Perhaps He painted the binding in then ran it through the planer. To bad hes no longer around and all the guys from the shop are told old (or shot) to remember.
I would say forget Gene. My best guess is to him Basses and Amps are just "tools" he's not really a gearhead and not into anything he's not selling himself or has a part in.
I think you just hit the word on the bevel issue.
Charlie likely planed down the top of the guitar down when the old rosewood fingerboard was stripped off and left just enough of a channel to paint the binding in.
Perhaps He painted the binding in then ran it through the planer. To bad hes no longer around and all the guys from the shop are told old (or shot) to remember.
I would say forget Gene. My best guess is to him Basses and Amps are just "tools" he's not really a gearhead and not into anything he's not selling himself or has a part in.
Two questions
1. So planing it to 1.5" would be "inaccurate"?
2. Any idea what the third knob was for on the LoBue? I made mine into a 2 position rotary knob for series/parallel.
1. So planing it to 1.5" would be "inaccurate"?
2. Any idea what the third knob was for on the LoBue? I made mine into a 2 position rotary knob for series/parallel.
Yes, Exactly. Dimarzio pickup with a DPDT rotory switch to go series/parallel. Larry Dimarzio started at LoBues shop rebuilding stock pickups with different, wires gauges and windings with 4 conductor leads
Id make the Bass the same way --the classic as it was know for seen in most all the photos.
I dont know if 1.5 inches is correct. To me it felt more like a Les Paul Studio Bass with a flat top and double cutawey. I would try and find a pic with the jack plate and try and calculate it.
A Gibson jack plate is 1 3/8" square. Judging the 3rd pic with that measurement, it would seem that the body was in fact 1.75"
Damn it! I hope my guitarist didn't drop the piece off to the planer yet.
Ahh now this is exactly what I thaught I remembered, thick like a Les Paul, massive neck joint no noticeable bevel, neck pitched back so the strings ark across the top high & mounting ring high. . This is why it felt like a Giibson Les Paul studio Bass without having a arch top!
Yes 1.75" at least, possible more
I found the old Kiss negatives I will look through them---I wouldn't plane that body down the Lobue was not like a Punisher at all
Yes 1.75" at least, possible more
I found the old Kiss negatives I will look through them---I wouldn't plane that body down the Lobue was not like a Punisher at all
Ahh now this is exactly what I taught I remembered, thick like a Les Paul, massive neck joint no noticeable bevel, neck pitched back so the strings ark across the top high & mounting ring high. . This is why it felt like a Giibson Les Paul studio Bass without having a arch top!
I found the old Kiss negatives I will look through them---I wouldn't plane that body down the Lobue was not like a Punisher at all
This is a great pic! It shows how long the neck pocket is! I may have to re-do my template to account for this. I hope to have a better action that is realtively low in action.
I would fined an old Gibson Humbucker, convert to 4 wire & add a thin Brass plate under each coil.
Many of these Humbuckers were "sidewinders" that had very unique thunderous "punch" and clarity.
The Brass makes the coils behave like they have 30% more windings without the muddyness (The Q factor remains the same) Entwistle did the Brass trick with some of his T-Birds and Fender-birds.
An original Music Man Pickup is only 1000 or so turns per coil. It has a very low impedance and extremely low output. They require heavy tone shaping and amplifying electronics.
Gibson Sidewinder:
Many of these Humbuckers were "sidewinders" that had very unique thunderous "punch" and clarity.
The Brass makes the coils behave like they have 30% more windings without the muddyness (The Q factor remains the same) Entwistle did the Brass trick with some of his T-Birds and Fender-birds.
An original Music Man Pickup is only 1000 or so turns per coil. It has a very low impedance and extremely low output. They require heavy tone shaping and amplifying electronics.
Gibson Sidewinder:
I would fined an old Gibson Humbucker, convert to 4 wire & add a thin Brass plate under each coil.
Many of these Humbuckers were "sidewinders" that had very unique thunderous "punch" and clarity.
The Brass makes the coils behave like they have 30% more windings without the muddyness (The Q factor remains the same) Entwistle did the Brass trick with some of his T-Birds and Fender-birds.
A Music Man Pickup is only 1000 or so turns per coil and has very impedance and output. They require tone shaping and amplifying electronics.
Gibson Sidewinder:
SGD made my pickup for this. He used a Chasis from an Artek mudbucker, and completely reworked it so it should have a very aggresive, ballsy tone.
This is after throwing a quick coat of paint on my pine tester. I basically sanded the edge on most of the body. I used my router bit to bevel the inner part of the horns. I think I will use a different round over bit without the shelf cut.
I do think the white trim gives an illusion of bevel.
Your thoughts?
I do think the white trim gives an illusion of bevel.
Your thoughts?
Wow that's it VERY friggan cool
I see the wood is soaking in the paint.
Have the body slightly warm when you first hit it with a spray sealer so the wood sucks it "in" as it cools. Then deep grain with past filler or many coats of spray sanding sealer
Its VERY time consuming with Ash or mahogany and the grain starts showing through the finish in a couple months as I learned the hard way with a Music Man Sabre I rushed some years ago
I see the wood is soaking in the paint.
Have the body slightly warm when you first hit it with a spray sealer so the wood sucks it "in" as it cools. Then deep grain with past filler or many coats of spray sanding sealer
Its VERY time consuming with Ash or mahogany and the grain starts showing through the finish in a couple months as I learned the hard way with a Music Man Sabre I rushed some years ago
This is just a pine tester. I painted just to illustrate the optical illusion the white trim makes of it being beveled.
Yep that looks really good.
I think you are right, a small roundover is all it needs. That 2nd pic looks just like the pic posted earlier, so whatever radius that is looks good.
I think you are right, a small roundover is all it needs. That 2nd pic looks just like the pic posted earlier, so whatever radius that is looks good.
