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Genz Benz Streamliner; Part 4
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Has anybody tried this amp with double bass?
I'd love to hear how it works for country/folk/roots rock.
I'd love to hear how it works for country/folk/roots rock.
Chef will be the man for that. Not sure if the single, limited midrange control will be sufficient for those DB feedback, wolf notes, etc. issues, but I'm sure Chef will post up about it.
Haven't had a chance to do that yet, but I will.
I remember seeing someone here having done that....
I remember seeing someone here having done that....
On the TH, my "Streamliner" settings are:
Treble and Bass: 2 o'clock
Mid center: 3 o'clock
Mids : 9:30
AGS: On
Then adjust the Gain to get just a little bit of grit going, with master for unity.
This is close to the Streamliner with the bass around 10 o'clock, and mids slightly boosted at 2.5 khz, and treble around 10 o'clock. Not quite as fluffy and tubey, but pretty darn close.
I have to say, based on my experience with the Tone Hammer DI, the TH500 head might very well be a killer product. I don't expect it to have the full vibe the SL900 has, but it should be very versatile.
My much anticipated (by me) comparison of my Streamliner 900 with my Thunderchild 12 and LDS 12/6 (3012LF, Faital mid) is complete. Test basses were my Rob Allen modified MB-2 and D4 basses, seen in my avatar and profile pics, and my son's P-bass copy ... I'm working with Rob on the P-bass thing 
My findings were consistent across all the basses and I ran all tests using a very clean setting, as dirt isn't my thing for what I do.
As a picture is worth a thousand words, here is the result. Following the pic are the words
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As I found when I did my comparison of the Shuttle 9 with these two cabs, the results were very, very close (in more ways than one - more on that later).
Overall, I gave the nod to the SL900/LDS pairing. While the tone for both cabs was extremely similar with the same EQ settings, the LDS had the slightly fuller sound due to the increased box size and really complimented the smooth sound of the Streamliner. However, I did feel that in a band setting it would be very difficult to discern the two cabs based on tone.
To complete the test I revisited my Shuttle 9/Thunderchild/LDS comparison and found I still slightly preferred the S9/TC12 pairing due to the somewhat more hi-fi sounds of the S9 and TC12.
My final part of the test was to compare the S9 against the SL900 with both cabs. For my settings and playing style the two heads sounded very similar, another nod to the great Shuttle 9.
The next round will be down the road as I recently changed my order for a second Thunderchild 12 to a Thunderchild 15. That should really be something!
It's a great time to be a bass guitarist
My findings were consistent across all the basses and I ran all tests using a very clean setting, as dirt isn't my thing for what I do.As a picture is worth a thousand words, here is the result. Following the pic are the words
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As I found when I did my comparison of the Shuttle 9 with these two cabs, the results were very, very close (in more ways than one - more on that later).
Overall, I gave the nod to the SL900/LDS pairing. While the tone for both cabs was extremely similar with the same EQ settings, the LDS had the slightly fuller sound due to the increased box size and really complimented the smooth sound of the Streamliner. However, I did feel that in a band setting it would be very difficult to discern the two cabs based on tone.
To complete the test I revisited my Shuttle 9/Thunderchild/LDS comparison and found I still slightly preferred the S9/TC12 pairing due to the somewhat more hi-fi sounds of the S9 and TC12.
My final part of the test was to compare the S9 against the SL900 with both cabs. For my settings and playing style the two heads sounded very similar, another nod to the great Shuttle 9.
The next round will be down the road as I recently changed my order for a second Thunderchild 12 to a Thunderchild 15. That should really be something!
It's a great time to be a bass guitarist
Nice! I would have guessed that the slightly lower tuning of the LDS driver/cab could really make use of the Streamliner fatness. And, the mid driver with the relatively low top end rolloff just is perfect for the organic top end of the Streamliner. Cool. You have your 'super 12' needs covered about as well as anyone could do!
I just got back from customs picking up my SL600.
In fact, none of the paperwork had been done at all, although the amp has been in customs for 6 days.
Luckily, my brother knew some people over there and made it possible I could pick it up after all.
Anyway, here's a pic with my db112 and the 2 basses I own right now.
I didn't get to play at all as my GF is working in the same room, right now.
This Thursday I'll be able to compare it to my SA200 thru a db212. Reporting back!!!
edit: no hole in the box Greg/Rocket Music double boxed it!! Thanks
In fact, none of the paperwork had been done at all, although the amp has been in customs for 6 days.
Luckily, my brother knew some people over there and made it possible I could pick it up after all.
Anyway, here's a pic with my db112 and the 2 basses I own right now.
I didn't get to play at all as my GF is working in the same room, right now.
This Thursday I'll be able to compare it to my SA200 thru a db212. Reporting back!!!
edit: no hole in the box
Greg/Rocket Music double boxed it!! Thanks
Hi:
Before the Streamliners came out, many folks that had the Shuttle 6.0 upgraded to the Shuttle 9.0 to take advantage of 500 watts at 8 ohms and a different voicing that gave a heftier low end and a different midrange/treble voicing
I'm up for a Streamliner, the question is the 600 watt vs the 900 watt version. I have a Bergie HT112 EX112 mini stack, and play either one or two cabinets depending on the gig (Sadowsky 4 string bass)
Does the 600 watt version have the same tonality, just fewer watts, or is the 900 watt version the way to go for the deep low end?
Thanks in advance!
Before the Streamliners came out, many folks that had the Shuttle 6.0 upgraded to the Shuttle 9.0 to take advantage of 500 watts at 8 ohms and a different voicing that gave a heftier low end and a different midrange/treble voicing
I'm up for a Streamliner, the question is the 600 watt vs the 900 watt version. I have a Bergie HT112 EX112 mini stack, and play either one or two cabinets depending on the gig (Sadowsky 4 string bass)
Does the 600 watt version have the same tonality, just fewer watts, or is the 900 watt version the way to go for the deep low end?
Thanks in advance!
The Shuttle 6 and 9 are voiced quite differently down low. As far as I know, the 600 and 900 are not. With that smaller Berg stack, the 600 should be more than capable of driving that stack to full volume, and should sound really good... kind of like a fatter, warmer LMII/III.
ElMon said:
The brown truck came a day early, so I had a great time playing around with my new SL900 and hearing my new AE212 at the same time....until everyone complained last night... What a killer combination! I mostly just want to post a big thanks to those of you sharing your settings... I've been a GK / SWR super clean plug and play guy for almost 25 years... having spent unreasonable amount of $ on instruments to change my sound rather than really understanding my amps... I'm converted... This combination brings out things I've never heard in my bass and in my playing (not all of it good!... never heard that D string buzz on the 7th fret before)
Anyway, please keep the descriptions and the settings coming I'm learning a great deal from this forum.
I just got back from customs picking up my SL600.
In fact, none of the paperwork had been done at all, although the amp has been in customs for 6 days.
Luckily, my brother knew some people over there and made it possible I could pick it up after all.
Anyway, here's a pick with my db112 and the 2 basses I own right now.
I didn't get to play at all as my GF is working in the same room, right now.
This Thursday I'll be able to compare it to my SA200 thru a db212. Reporting back!!!
edit: no hole in the box
cool! keep us posted on your impressions, especially taking into account that you own a SA200.
Regarding the use of dual speakon/quarter inch inputs, it's true that a speakon is a much better connection and is important at high output levels. However, with the icepower modules there are additional technical reasons for not using a quarter inch cable that are important for safety and reliability. I am unaware of it being off limits for audio products in general, which is why you may see the dual outputs on other amps.
Regarding turning the tweeter off when using OD, IMHO this really depends on how the distortion is voiced, how the cabinet is voiced, and what the tweeter is doing. You could end up with mud if the cabinet doesn't have much high end. Or...maybe there is too much high end. But either way you shouldn't have to run around and turn off the tweeter when you want to kick in distortion.
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Scott McArron said:
Playing at babalu on Thursday, Scarlett tree on Friday and lucid on Saturday. Or something like that. I have practice tonight and will confirm the details. They will be my first shows with the sl900. We'll see how it works out but so far it sounds great in my living room through a single mesa ph112.
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Bergantino or Genz Benz Cabs Dont turn mud if you turn the tweeter off... If one want to use to DIST mode on a gig..
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