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Genz Benz Streamliner; Part 4

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"Crazy Train" or "Brown-Eyed Girl"?

I am considering a Streamliner 900 purchase, but need some advice.

My wish is that this amp is basically a 7-pound SVT head and a bag of chips.

My tone goals, quite simply, are straight from the School of Classic Hard Rock.

My playing style is aggressive, plectrum-driven, Bob Daisley-esque, and could never be mistaken as anything but.

Would the Streamliner have me covered or will I soon after have buyer's remorse?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers!
 
Streamliner bretheren,

Ok, in my ever-changing-insane-tone-chase I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on another cab. Here's my deal, J and P passive basses through our beloved SL900 in a loud rock band.

Gun to your head: GB uber quad or uber 410?

I want tight and punchy with a good mid presence.

Yes, I've done my search but I wanted my fellow Streamliner brother opinions (those that have played through them anyway). Thanks fellas.

I have the Uber 410, but have not heard the Quad, but I suspect jlepre is right on his assessment. One guy that I think has tried both is SVTb15 (Kirk). He may be able to give you a good comparison. Also, Greg of Rocket Music may be able to give you some good insight on this as well.
 
Well, just Crap! Got my Streamliner 900 and brand new Berg HT112ER cab and it's a fantastic sound. Amp has balls and what I want is a clean sound. I absolutely hate distortion on a bass (only reason I hesitated getting this amp), but the headroom for the clean tone is impressive.

I have an older Hartke 15 cab, plus a Carvin 2X 10 cab I have never really used. For the larger gigs I wonder if the Hartke 15 paired with the Berg and SL 900 would work. What say you (those smarter and more experienced than I)?

Depending on my tax return, not opposed to grabbing a Berg 2X12 or 2X10, oh, oh,.....................so many choices! :crying:

Looking for feedback, and feel free to slam me for aquired gear from the days gone past :p
 
Chef said:
Single function speakons: I think this was covered earlier, by saying EU required them. OK, but, then how does MarkBass get away with dual use speakons?

They are not pushing this kind of juice into a cab.

Apart from the 800 watt LM800 and LM800 Tube, of course :bassist:
 
Chef said:
Sure:
the walkabout sounds darker overall, and can't really be tweaked out of that.
by contrast, the M9's treble goes waaay higher.

The Streamliner sits nicely inbetween those; based on the 5 minutes I've spent with it so far.


I think I understand what you mean now. Your use of "treble extension" means an amp that produces higher frequencies better.
 
My SL900 arrived today, and I haven't had a lot of time to spend with it yet, but this head is definitely VERY fat. I need to play with it more, but my first thought was "db750" as I was playing with it for about 10 minutes. I'm surprised more folks haven't made that comparison here. I'll have a lot of time tomorrow to see what it can do.
:cool:
It does sound like a DB750, to sum degree.
I've only played my SL600, with a 6x10 cab. (very impressed)
Can't wait two more week for my Schroeder BMF 2x15.
I think this well be a great match.
 
Hi all

Here's my meagre contribution to the Streamliner's YouTube presence... J with rounds, P with flats. It's a very non-scientific clip, recorded with a camera condenser mic.



This is the first amp I've been giddy about owning in years and years. I love it that much...



nice clip! looks like everything set pretty flat- and good tone to boot!
 
Got my 900 today. It's all true. I can't add much that hasn't been said already. It sounds great with the RS 210. It makes this cab sound huge. I will open her up a bit more with the Eden 410. As much as I loved the RH 450, the SL spanked it. Girth, balls, oomph, depth, nice highs with out sizzle, it's all in there. It is very hard to get a bad sound out of this amp. Prefer the mid at 600. I find the sound really opens up with the gain at about 1 and the pre volume at 2, and still sounds clean, as opposed to a lower gain setting.:bassist::hyper: I'm only getting started.
 
Input gain light lit.
Tube gain at 11am.
Input volume at 1pm.
Bass trimmed to 10am.
Mids: set at 600, trimmed to 11am.
Treble: 11am
Master volume: noon.

Trimming the bass is pretty well required, but I'd rather trim than find a way to add things back in. That never seems to sound as genuine.
Trimming the mids back a hair seems to let the treble project a little more, without being bright/bright, if that makes sense.

With the gain structures set like this, it's loud-loud, and has just a bit of grit on double stops and such.

The 3DPM does a nice job of taking signal from...hhhmmmm.... G on the E string or so, and squashing them just a bit so they match the notes above that point in the register nicely.
 
LDS 4x8+horn (700watts/4ohms), and Sadowsky RV5JJ with stainless rounds.
It's big, clean-mostly....it hammers, and you can hear the rounds speak real clearly.
 
My settings have consistently been as follows:

Gain and Vol at 12 o'clock

Bass back to 10 o'clock

Mids boosted to 2 o'clock on the 220hz setting

Treble at Noon

Master Volume between 9-12 o'clock.

Every other tonal change I can get with my Sadowsky's pre. First time I've gigged a head that didn't have me wanting to quickly run back to my DB750. And the added lowmid kick and general mid freq flexibility puts it over the top.
 
Input gain light lit.
Tube gain at 11am.
Input volume at 1pm.
Bass trimmed to 10am.
Mids: set at 600, trimmed to 11am.
Treble: 11am
Master volume: noon.

Trimming the bass is pretty well required, but I'd rather trim than find a way to add things back in. That never seems to sound as genuine.
Trimming the mids back a hair seems to let the treble project a little more, without being bright/bright, if that makes sense.

With the gain structures set like this, it's loud-loud, and has just a bit of grit on double stops and such.

The 3DPM does a nice job of taking signal from...hhhmmmm.... G on the E string or so, and squashing them just a bit so they match the notes above that point in the register nicely.

Chef,

Everything is dialed back almost the same...interesting. I tried the settings and it does sound good with the Sadowsky 4. I had the bass dialed up actually, but that was with a 210.
 
I agree with about the bass control. I think somewhere around 9 or 9:30 is a rather "flat" setting for the bass, so at noon it's really thick. The Treble is similar also. I think it's flat around 10:30 or 11, or at least what I've become used to calling flat. The cool think about these Baxandall-like controls is that you can cut like this and it doesn't result in a weak or thin sound at all. Very musical.

I'll agree with others that the upper mids (1200 hz or so maybe) are a bit scooped, even if you back the bass and treble down. I think Chef might have liked cutting mids at 600 hz because it helped accentuate those upper mids a bit by bringing everything else down. That's a cool approach, and no problem to me. Key takeaway here is that you can get plenty of mids if you want I think, but it AIN'T gonna sound like a Shuttle when you do. Still has it's own mojo.

I can't play through a cab at all tonight because of neighbors and young kids, but I've been using the headphone out. I practice through headphones almost every night, so even that is a good reference point for me. This head just oozes with tubey goodness. It's really apparent when playing with a heavy pick. The note attack has that grunt even when the tone is kept nice and clean. It compresses in a pleasing way like only a tube front end can accomplish. Tone is just rich and buttery sounding which I know doesn't convey anything tonal at all, but man that's all I can think of.

I've already found a few different EQ settings that I like for different tones, but my favorite is bass at about 9:30 or 10, Mids at 1:30 (2.5khz), and highs around 11 o'clock. Sounds just about perfect to my ears.

The more extreme overdrive is a subjective thing. I really like it for some sounds I was going for, but didn't care for it as much when trying to get a couple of other sounds out of it. That's just the way overdrive is, so I'm just happy that I like the higher settings at all honestly. What's most important to me is the lower overdrive for getting an edge and some grit, and for that it also sounds about perfect for me.

On a side not for now, and a bit off topic, is that I'm continuously amazed at my Aguilar Tone Hammer DI and what it can do. After getting my SL900 tone dialed in, I decided I'd try to get my TH out and try to cop that tone and feel. I was running the TH into the FX return on the SL900, and then listening through the headphone out. I kept switching back and forth between the SL900 and TH until I got a fairly close thing going on. The AGS on the TH cuts the highs a good bit as soon as you engage it, so it doesn't quite have the upper gliss that the SL900 can have, but the mids and lows are right there. It doesn't quite have that all-tube feel either, but it's close and the feel it does have is just wonderful. I was really excited about this because most of what I do is with in-ears these days with no monitors or amps, and I rely on the TH quite a bit for my signal shaping. I'm going to try my new "Streamliner" settings soon, probably before I get a chance to actually gig the Streamliner. Or, I might just use the Streamliner as a DI box. After all, it's virtually the same size as an Avalon U5 and it's way more flexible.
 
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