Genz Benz Uber gb410T first impressions

[agedhorse]

what were the neo driver issues? and how did the high mid voicing get dialled out?

There were several issues related to early motor designs, can't get into them here but for the most part all quality manufacturers are well past this point by over 2 decades.

Hi mid voicing is governed by 4 or 5 different design parameters, cone geometry, material, dust cap geometry, material, positioning, surround material. moving mass, voice coil and bobbin design, etc.

 

[bherman]

Somewhere back in the day I had a Uber 212 and can concur what others have said - best sounding cabinet that I ever owned. Powered by a Streamliner 900, it could knock down walls and sounded fantastic.

 

[Wicked G]

Nice find and that cab looks in really good condition. I have a GB UBER QUAD and UBER 115t that sound awesome with my Streamliner 600 and Mesa WD800. I purchased a new vehicle last year and now I cannot move those cabs because they don't fit in my car so they have now become my large home practice rig lol. Sad because they deserve to be gigged, but no way to move them.

 

[ad9000]

Ok, I jumped on the Uber 410 bandwagon as of yesterday - found one in the local CL classifieds which I scored for $500 out the door. It's in perfect shape except for the dent in the top rail, which is unfortunate but only cosmetic.

First of all, I love the healthy midrange response of this cab. Nearly all of my other cabs are more scooped and/or bottom heavy, so this gives me a nice flavor to have in the arsenal. I like the sweetness of the top end too. P-bass sounds amazing through it. I tried all of the amps or preamp/power amp combinations in my possession, and the winner is the Kern preamp through the Demeter Minnie power amp as seen in the photo. Whatever that rig is doing really complements this cab very well. Also, the cab seems to be very efficient, which is obviously a positive.

On the neg side, I don't love the ergonomics - I think side handles would be helpful, and the tilt back wheels are handy but not cushy at all. Not a deal breaker as I can dolly it if I have to.

I will report back when I've taken it on a gig.

 

[TTA]

Ok, I jumped on the Uber 410 bandwagon as of yesterday - found one in the local CL classifieds which I scored for $500 out the door. It's in perfect shape except for the dent in the top rail, which is unfortunate but only cosmetic.

First of all, I love the healthy midrange response of this cab. Nearly all of my other cabs are more scooped and/or bottom heavy, so this gives me a nice flavor to have in the arsenal. I like the sweetness of the top end too. P-bass sounds amazing through it. I tried all of the amps or preamp/power amp combinations in my possession, and the winner is the Kern preamp through the Demeter Minnie power amp as seen in the photo. Whatever that rig is doing really complements this cab very well. Also, the cab seems to be very efficient, which is obviously a positive.

On the neg side, I don't love the ergonomics - I think side handles would be helpful, and the tilt back wheels are handy but not cushy at all. Not a deal breaker as I can dolly it if I have to.

I will report back when I've taken it on a gig.

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concur on the mid present tone. which is perfect for me as this is my tone. I have never been one to chase a cab/amp to find “my tone” (eq is easier and cheaper) but this is the closest out of the box so far.

too much fun with my v4b to practice other combos though. just trying different basses.

 

[Mastermold]

i powerlift so weight is no big deal to me (not that i am huge or anything).

imho anything under 100 lbs is fine. but it becomes less about weight… and more about size imho. big objects, even when light… become unwieldy.

the wheels on the uber are nice

I think it’s around 70 lbs, not too bad. Great integrated handles for loading in/out of an SUV. Here’s mine:

 

[Mastermold]

Somewhere back in the day I had a Uber 212 and can concur what others have said - best sounding cabinet that I ever owned. Powered by a Streamliner 900, it could knock down walls and sounded fantastic.

Streamliner 900 through an Uber 410 is considered lethal force in 39 states!

 

[Jeff Genzler]

Streamliner 900 through an Uber 410 is considered lethal force in 39 states!

OR, you can be like this guy ---- Doug Wimbish using MG-800, with UBER 410 and newer BA2-410-3, lethal force, globally.

Photo from last weekends annual Wimbash in Hartford, CT.

 

[Kenny056]

This is my bedroom setup. It works pretty well

 

[Jeff Genzler]

This is my bedroom setup. It works pretty well View attachment 7393392

I always loved that Uber 212T. It is a beast. The Nu Classic is a different flavor and a great cab for ceramic magnet speakers and a small footprint format. Nice to see them together.

 

[jVilla76]

There is one at my local guitar center Im going to take for a test drive today. I've been gassing for a new cabinet for awhile now. My poor little Peavy 410 txf is rated 350 w at 4 ohm, but doesn't even come close to keeping up with my Hartke 3500. Guessing the uber won't even break I sweat when I really start pushing the Hartke.

 

[Mastermold]

There is one at my local guitar center Im going to take for a test drive today. I've been gassing for a new cabinet for awhile now. My poor little Peavy 410 txf is rated 350 w at 4 ohm, but doesn't even come close to keeping up with my Hartke 3500. Guessing the uber won't even break I sweat when I really start pushing the Hartke.

The Uber 410 is plenty durable and powerful but I think you’ll find above all it’s a great sounding cabinet. I’ve paired mine with various Genz Benz, Ampeg and GK heads and everything I’ve used sounds good with it.

 

[jVilla76]

The Uber 410 is plenty durable and powerful but I think you’ll find above all it’s a great sounding cabinet. I’ve paired mine with various Genz Benz, Ampeg and GK heads and everything I’ve used sounds good with it.

Yep. I'd have to agree. Genz Benz hit a home run with this cab. Still trying to to come to terms with how good this cabinet sounds. Lots of lovely low-end but super tight and focused not all flabby and floppy like my old cab. The articulation on the Uber cab is unbelievable. Playing super fast pumping 8th notes through my old cab just used to become a monotone wall of sound almost like a drone. Now I hear the attack and decay of each note and also the weight behind them with crystal clarity. The contrast between the Peavy and the Genz Benz is night and day. It's like the difference between listening to someone who's black out drunk slurring their words talking vs listening to a proper English gentleman eloquently enunciating everything crisply and perfectly.