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Thats kinky!

Hey are your lado's passive or active?


Two are active and one - the 5 string is passive.

the emg loaded one has active pickups - I believe the rest are only active pre amps.

not sure about the humbucking one - strange voodoo in there with the custom LADO/shadow(possibly Sergio) pickups. That one has a high gain/distortion preamp phase reversal split dual toggle and tone sector so I don’t know what is going on in there lol.

ibby is active pre and my new acquisition- an Epiphone zenith fretless is active shadow electronics - not sure about pickups being active or passive - probably passive.

All of them benefit similarly to the low mid bump but I haven’t dialed in the zenith yet - neck pickup is right at the fingerboard and the bridge pickup is the bridge so a little more extreme on the differences - plus one is piezo.
 
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Thanks Loring. I'm still trying to dial in my Sadowsky PJ. I haven't quite hit the spot I'm looking for. I picked up a Lakland duck dunn 44-64, put on tapes, and loving the results. Can't quite nail down my PJ.

Maybe @Holdsg could help? We have sister deluxe VW Sadowsky basses. I typically have been playing it passive. We are doing some 60's style soul and motown music.
 
@Loring And is that blue or gold channel?

thanks for sharing those settings.


Sorry - thought I mentioned earlier ‘A’ contour which is the blue channel.

you can get there on the ‘B’ contour or yellow channel too but you may not need as much low mid boost since B (yellow) tends to do that anyways. A kinda scoops it and that boost narrows the scoop a little while still giving a bit of boost to the low and the highs.
 
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At any rate - just saying play around a bit. I found a great tone with everything at noon. Left it there for quite a while. Then I decided to just play around and I’ve found a few great tones. Some work better in a band context - some better when it’s just bass.
What I have found is this amp is so linear (at least to the ears) that it is very easy to dial in.

the only caveat is - to get a great in the mix tone - you need to adjust it while you’re “ in the mix”.
 
Thanks Loring. I'm still trying to dial in my Sadowsky PJ. I haven't quite hit the spot I'm looking for. I picked up a Lakland duck dunn 44-64, put on tapes, and loving the results. Can't quite nail down my PJ.

Maybe @Holdsg could help? We have sister deluxe VW Sadowsky basses. I typically have been playing it passive. We are doing some 60's style soul and motown music.

@SadowskySteve Are you asking about settings on the amp, or on the bass?
 
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@SadowskySteve Are you asking about settings on the amp, or on the bass?

On a PJ - I start with the P pickup and dial in the J till it’s growly enough...

On the amp - in actually use a looper and put some boost on till I find the frequency I want boosted then dial it back till I like the overall tone.

For “in the mix” prelim I do the same thing but with recorded music going through as well and tweak it slightly when I’m with the band.

Every room is different so you may have to tweak slightly - mostly it’s been really close in most rooms.
 
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@SadowskySteve Are you asking about settings on the amp, or on the bass?

Yes, thank you! Actually I was referring to your MG800 settings. I've been doing a little of Loring's original mid bump and dialing the contour back to just between 8 and 9 o'clock on the dial. This works mostly. For songs where I need more focus than just the passive P, I switch back to active, dial in some J pickup and boost the trebs and just a hair boost on the bass. This bass is great but I find some songs just doesn't give me the presence that I have been looking for.
 
On a PJ - I start with the P pickup and dial in the J till it’s growly enough...

On the amp - in actually use a looper and put some boost on till I find the frequency I want boosted then dial it back till I like the overall tone.

For “in the mix” prelim I do the same thing but with recorded music going through as well and tweak it slightly when I’m with the band.

Every room is different so you may have to tweak slightly - mostly it’s been really close in most rooms.

I'd have to say your last gig at Drums N Flats was your best sounding from the rig. Good sound level and I could hear all your mistakes! Just kidding! All the fast notes and runs were very clear and crisp to my ears.
 
Well, these are my settings, untouched, from recent Led Zeppelin Band prax. I was using a passive G&L L1000 Bass thru my 410-3. Blue contour for all songs except gold contour for immigrant song.

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Well, these are my settings, untouched, from recent Led Zeppelin Band prax. I was using a passive G&L L1000 Bass thru my 410-3. Blue contour for all songs except gold contour for immigrant song.

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That’s something else to consider - which cab(s) are we driving.

12’s have a bit more bottom and the 210/410’s more low mid punch so we can use these as starting points but in the end our ears (and guts) tell the final story so some tweaking will always be required. FWIW- the settings I shared earlier were on a 12-3 SLT/STR stack.
 
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