Nicely Done, JK! But, do ask them to add Genzler to their nav options! BTW, so many options with Temple!
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Nicely Done, JK! But, do ask them to add Genzler to their nav options! BTW, so many options with Temple!
Hey folks, I’m contemplating some new cabs and am looking for insight. I’m considering the Nu Classic 210 and 112, or possibly 2x112. Also considering that pair of Focus 112 cabs on the classifieds. Lower cost is definitely a plus.
I currently have a Rumble 115 cab, and have owned a shuttle 112 a while ago.
How do the Nu Classic and Focus cabs compare to the Rumble 115, if you’ve ever had experience with them? My main goals are to have a little more volume at my disposal, have a smaller/more portable single cab when needed, and have a little more clarity/modern in my sound when needed. The Rumble is surprisingly good and loud, but when I want that totally clean and fat sound from my B Amp, the rumble doesn’t always deliver. Just adding more cone area might solve that though.
I currently have a Rumble 115 cab, and have owned a shuttle 112 a while ago.
How do the Nu Classic and Focus cabs compare to the Rumble 115, if you’ve ever had experience with them? My main goals are to have a little more volume at my disposal, have a smaller/more portable single cab when needed, and have a little more clarity/modern in my sound when needed. The Rumble is surprisingly good and loud, but when I want that totally clean and fat sound from my B Amp, the rumble doesn’t always deliver. Just adding more cone area might solve that though.
You may want to think about the Nu-Classic 212 as a one cabinet solution option as well. The handles on the NC (and Focus) 112s give them more of a one-handed carry option and I know many people like the modular approach of adding more cabs as needed based on the gig, but the NC212 is light with a smallish footprint so why not have the best sound and most headroom available regardless of the setting? I used a Rumble 500c (in conjunction with the 115 extension cab at times) and that line is definitely a good option but in IMHO the NCs just have a clarity and fullness to them that the Rumbles can't match.
I cannot weigh in on the Rumble vs Genzler question but if you can afford to make the change, it'll be well worth the upgrade. Genzler gear is in another league. As to the 1 vs 2 cabinets, my experience is that 2 speakers is always better than a single, even if the gig doesnt need the extra volume. It just sounds better and fuller. I have two 10-2 array cabinets and one 112TV that I use in various combinations with a Magellan 350. I find that I prefer the 12 and one of the 10s over two 10s. So if I were in your shoes, I'd consider the 212 if you don't mind the weight (its obviously cheaper to buy one cab vs two) or 2x112s if affordable.
The 212 would be a great solution, but I’m trying to keep the individual cabs light. I wave wrist issues, and even with a hand truck to wheel them around, the lifting in and out of the car/stage/tight places makes it more difficult with a larger/heavier cab even if they’re all muuuuch better than the heavy cabs of 20+ years ago.
In that case, a hearty recommendation for two 112s. The one that I have (112TV) is so easy to move. I don't know how the Focus cabs compare to the newer Nu Classics, you might reach out to Jeff Genzler, he's very helpful with comparisons and is always attuned to his user's needs.
I like the modular approach
2 x 112 for me. Everyone has different needs/wants. I love the BA cabs but some prefer more traditional designs and the nu classic seem to merge old school mojo with modern design.
2 x 112 for me. Everyone has different needs/wants. I love the BA cabs but some prefer more traditional designs and the nu classic seem to merge old school mojo with modern design.
Joeykun
pronounced ジョーイくん
- Jun 22, 2007
- 4,200
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- Endorsing: LAKLAND SADOWSKY GENZLER DARKGLASS NORDSTRAND TEMPLEBOARD KIRLIN DRSTRINGS ACCESS
The NU Classic 112T is an amazing compact cab that packs a punch for only 28 lbs. 2 of these stacked would cover most rooms with ease. Extremely easy to transport and would fit in the tightest spaces. If you need small, light and great tone, I highly recommend this cab(s)!
I played a Halloween gig last night switching off between an NC112 and an MG12T-V, and I also tried them both stacked together since they were there (sorry, forgot to take pics, I was too busy looking at all the wild costumes in the crowd). I like both cabs. As others have described, the NC112 is warmer and smoother in the mids while the mids in the MG12T-V are more prominent and can get a bit aggressive if you want them to. I believe the MG probably goes lower, but the NC sounds like it has stronger lows since it has the smooth low mid warmth to complement the lows. Both have a small footprint and are easy to carry (although I can definitely feel the weight difference with the NC112's extra few pounds). They also sound good together even though they have different design goals, although when I played both in the last set the band and the crowd were pretty loud so I'll have to try that combo again when I can hear them better.
I wouldn't call the NC112 old school, since it is much clearer and with a more extended range than what I remember as old school, but it's definitely smooth and warm.
I'm definitely a fan of modular rigs, and not sure at this point if I like the NC or the MG better, but either is a winner for me.
Bob
I wouldn't call the NC112 old school, since it is much clearer and with a more extended range than what I remember as old school, but it's definitely smooth and warm.
I'm definitely a fan of modular rigs, and not sure at this point if I like the NC or the MG better, but either is a winner for me.
Bob
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Bob - always love your gig reports! Wish I had as many gigs as you do. But, you are revealing the fatal flaw with Genzler - that is - everything sounds SOOOOOO effing good! You might have to start advertising as an authorized dealer if you pick up more Genzler gear. But hey, keep ‘em coming. I sure plan to.
Sometimes I feel like I'm on a Genzler gear merry-go-round! Yes, Jeff has made it very difficult for me to settle in on a rig (but I'm not complaining, it's all good!). Then there's the pedals. I have the 4OTF, the footswitch, and the RE-Q is on order. Those won't be going anywhere.
I'd like to settle on a pair of 12s (either the MG12T-V or NC112) driven by my MG800 for regular gigs, and the MG350 attached to another MG12T-V for home practice, band rehearsals, and grab and go stuff. I'm reluctantly letting my BA10-2s go...I hope I don't regret that.
I feel very fortunate to have gigs. The restaurant/lounge we were playing at 5 or 6 times a month is now permanently closed but we're still playing Fridays and Saturdays most weekends at various venues.
Bob
I'd like to settle on a pair of 12s (either the MG12T-V or NC112) driven by my MG800 for regular gigs, and the MG350 attached to another MG12T-V for home practice, band rehearsals, and grab and go stuff. I'm reluctantly letting my BA10-2s go...I hope I don't regret that.
I feel very fortunate to have gigs. The restaurant/lounge we were playing at 5 or 6 times a month is now permanently closed but we're still playing Fridays and Saturdays most weekends at various venues.
Bob
I feel your pain.
I started with the MG350/BA10-2 combo. That sounded great so I dumped my other amps & cabs and bought a second then third BA10-2. Next came an MG12T-V. Loved that so I sold one of the BA10-2s. Then I thought the 10 & 12 sounded good together, but wouldn’t a BA12-3 work perfectly with the BA10-2? And yes it did. But somehow I wound up with a second MG 12T-V. Two of those sound fantastic, so I sold the BA12-3. I think I’m at a good stopping point. Might sell one BA10-2 and keep the other for quick, small, light portability. But planning on using the MGs for gigs. (Not that I have that many).
Not even going to try the NU cabs. I’m sure they’re great, but I’m happy with what I have and don’t need the extra 4 lbs. I think…
Problem is, it's all great stuff. Nice problem to have.
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I've been dramatically gas free on the amp/cab side for several years since settling in on Genzler.
Joeykun
pronounced ジョーイくん
- Jun 22, 2007
- 4,200
- 16,150
- Disclosures
- Endorsing: LAKLAND SADOWSKY GENZLER DARKGLASS NORDSTRAND TEMPLEBOARD KIRLIN DRSTRINGS ACCESS
Maybe Jeff should come out with a Bass Array version of the Uber Quad. A BA1210-3 perhaps. This should stir up the cab frenzy!! 
My second MG12T-V should be here later this week so I'll be able to try out a stack of two of them. I did make the mistake (?) of getting an NC112 so I'm tempted to get another to compare to the pair of MG12T-Vs. Honestly, I've been extremely happy with every Genzler combination that I've tried, so it's all good, at least until Jeff tempts us with something else.
MG10T-V or MG210T-V perhaps???
Love buying the cabs. Hate packing an shipping when another one I "need" comes along.
Love buying the cabs. Hate packing an shipping when another one I "need" comes along.
I have a BA15-3 arriving this week. I let my previous one go for smaller footprint cabs, but I missed the overall performance of the 15-3. Bound and determined to make it work for me. Enough playing around!
I love my BA15-3. Perfect size to performance for me and not heavy at all.
Cab GAS is in serious hibernation with my 15-3.
