Genzler Amplification Club

[Bassworship1]

@Jeff Genzler

I wish you would consider making a DI Box similar to the Mesa DI. I know I would buy one immediately. Needing a DI box for some of my church IEM gigs that I don't use my amp and the Genzler Di would be perfect.

 

[BuffaloBob4343]

ha ha. I was too sweaty to play the new NG2. I have had the USA Cirrus since Peavey first came out with them. I used to live an hour from the factory and had connections. Peavey treated me like one of their endorsed rock stars even though I was not. Any time I needed a setup or ANYTHING, their artist specialist met me at the door and adjusted my bass, put on a new neck, or anything I wanted. Still to this day it is my go to bass.

I was just joshin'! I've never played a Peavy, but that Cirrus is nice and they have a great rep. And with service like that, who can blame you?

 

[SteveC]

The 350 only has an "Aux In (Line Level)" and "Phones" inputs - which is why i'm not sure how/if a monitor can be plugged in.

Yep. I read that wrong.

 

[Jeff Genzler]

Question for MG-350 users: when using the MG-350 as a preamp, direct into PA via XLR and no bass cabinet, can a small powered stage monitor also be plugged into the MG-350? If so which input?
thx

There is no output on the MG 350 that would drive your powered monitor in this scenario. BUT, if you're running the DI from the amp into a Mixing console you could take a monitor mix from console (if it has this capability) and run it to the powered monitor for your needs.

Just a thought....

 

[bebass]

I was just joshin'! I've never played a Peavy, but that Cirrus is nice and they have a great rep. And with service like that, who can blame you?

Yeah, I know...but seriously I may have played the NG2 on that song if I hadn't of been sweating like a nanny goat in a pepper patch picking 9 rows at a time. Some say I am a bit....active....when I play live.

 

[bebass]

Question for MG-350 users: when using the MG-350 as a preamp, direct into PA via XLR and no bass cabinet, can a small powered stage monitor also be plugged into the MG-350? If so which input?
thx

There is no output on the MG 350 that would drive your powered monitor in this scenario. BUT, if you're running the DI from the amp into a Mixing console you could take a monitor mix from console (if it has this capability) and run it to the powered monitor for your needs.

Just a thought....

Yes, OR add a small inexpensive mixer or active (isolated) splitter; may be the best for your application.

 

[jibass]

Thanks all for suggestions. By the way, just got my BA10-2 cab and set up the combo - nice!!!!!

 

[SteveC]

Thanks all for suggestions. By the way, just got my BA10-2 cab and set up the combo - nice!!!!!

I am looking at this for my new practice/small gig amp. I'll be very interested to hear your impressions.

 

[ExaltBass]

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[jibass]

MG-350/BA10-2 combo, first impressions...

Got my combo assembled yesterday (had to split purchase of amp and cab) and have about 6 hours on it so far. Practice room only, don't have gigs starting up until end of month. I play mainly in a duo with acoustic guitar/singer, americana/folky/bluesy stuff. Our gigs/venues are at the "smaller end" of the playing spectrum and while the old mini-rig i had been using for a long time was/is perfectly adequate, i decided to upgrade to more current technology and the MG-350 seemed like it would be just right.

I'm no techie and barely understand how to use the parametic sweep, so bear in mind my comments are strictly based on what i hear and can touch. As i said earlier in this thread, the MG-350 has a heft and fullness behind the notes that sounds great, certainly more than enough power for my needs. My other similar powered [and older] amps sounded anemic in comparison. The controls all make sense (well, the mid parametric is a bit mysterious so far) and i could not get an ugly sound even when i tried. Warm clear powerful sound through the couple non-Genzler cabinets i tried.

The BA10-2 was also almost a quantum leap above the tiny 112 i had been using, even though 10 compared to 12. Actually, not fair to compare the cabs since the 112 was designed as an extension cab and the Genzler is clearly a standalone. The BA10-2 was even fuller in the low end (could rattle my shutters) but had a clarity and presence from low through high that i really liked. Felt like i was hearing the full output and range of my bass (4-string active J) for the first time.

As a combo, it is an easy and portable one-hand carry. The cabinet amp cradle very snugly holds the amp in place. Appearance, feel and build quality all first-class, as good as any boutique amp or cab i have used.

Cons - none. Well, ok, my first thought when i attached amp to cab was "oh crap i'll probably lose the two thumbscrews at some point" - so i will order another set for backup. And i discovered that it was best to use the "outside" speakon for the connection; with the inside speakon the cable runs through the center of the inset carrying handle opening and it makes it a little awkward for the fingers to grab the handle.

So, no gig experience yet but i'm not concerned at all. I was thinking about an MG-800 but now another BA10-2 cab may be all i need.

YMMV obviously, but if what you do lends itself to this scale of rig, i would not hesitate.

 

[svtb15]

I found a way to make the amp work more old school while using a NON tweeter type cab.. Sort of like a simple Bass and Treble control.
Since the amps TREB control seems to work above where most NON tweeter cabs can deliver, it may not be as effective at giving you what you want.. It adds more air up on top and a non tweeter can may only go to 4 to 5 K.
I had my old Bagend 112 cab and decided to use the EQ like a simple 2 band. ( sort of).
Leaving the TREB control at 12 o'clock I will instead use the Para Mid control and set it to the the 3k area and use the Mid Boost to add the Treble needed... It will sound more like a traditional Treble control .. ( sort of)
It made the Non tweeter Bagend sound like a traditional rock rig...

 

[Ryan L.]

I'm seriously considering a pair of Bass Array cabs to use in my main band, and use my MG212T as my rehearsal room cab and with my classic rock side gig.

But.....which BA cabs to get? I'm looking for deep but clear low end (without getting muddy or boomy). Good mid presence is a must, but I hate nasally, baked in high mid voiced cabs. Highs gotta be crisp and clear. And I tend to prefer a more modern tone vs vintage. And my amp is used as a stage monitor only, I always have full PA support, so I don't need 3. 2 will be fine.

I stopped using IEMs, so I need to be able to hear my cabs better from all around the stage. I'm assuming, due to the design and what I've read, that that's what these cabs excel at?

 

[bebass]

I'm seriously considering a pair of Bass Array cabs to use in my main band, and use my MG212T as my rehearsal room cab and with my classic rock side gig.

But.....which BA cabs to get? I'm looking for deep but clear low end (without getting muddy or boomy). Good mid presence is a must, but I hate nasally, baked in high mid voiced cabs. Highs gotta be crisp and clear. And I tend to prefer a more modern tone vs vintage. And my amp is used as a stage monitor only, I always have full PA support, so I don't need 3. 2 will be fine.

I stopped using IEMs, so I need to be able to hear my cabs better from all around the stage. I'm assuming, due to the design and what I've read, that that's what these cabs excel at?

I think you are describing the 12-3.

 

[Jeff Genzler]

I found a way to make the amp work more old school while using a NON tweeter type cab.. Sort of like a simple Bass and Treble control.
Since the amps TREB control seems to work above where most NON tweeter cabs can deliver, it may not be as effective at giving you what you want.. It adds more air up on top and a non tweeter can may only go to 4 to 5 K.
I had my old Bagend 112 cab and decided to use the EQ like a simple 2 band. ( sort of).
Leaving the TREB control at 12 o'clock I will instead use the Para Mid control and set it to the the 3k area and use the Mid Boost to add the Treble needed... It will sound more like a traditional Treble control .. ( sort of)
It made the Non tweeter Bagend sound like a traditional rock rig...

Kirk, What your describing is one reason we increased rhe range of the Mid Frequency range to 3K. Boosting that range for your HF definition and leaving the HF control flar will give you that more classic tone vibe when not using cabs with tweeters.
Also works great with the BA12-3 design and a P-bass.

 

[Jeff Genzler]

I think you are describing the 12-3.

BeBass is correct. Your description is exactly what players are getting from the BA12-3. The BA210-3 is a different animal to what you are describing.
I'm pretty confident you'd be in your sweet spot with the 12's along with your Magellan 800.

 

[John D Harris]

If anyone out there has access to the following cabs, if I had money, I'd bet money that a BA12-3 with a pair of BA10-2 stacked on top would sound REALLY good & the MG800 in low-impedance mode would drive them pretty well...
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Bueller?...Bueller?

 

[totem]

What I'm wondering is: how does the 350/BA10-2 combo with the 10-2 extension cabinet compare to the Shuttle 6.0-12T plus 12T extension cab that I've been using for years? I'm interested because I'm disabled and shedding some pounds off my rig would make my life easier. The Shuttle cabs have always been enough for any gig I do, but I worry that the new combo not having quite enough juice for me.

@Jeff Genzler or anybody who's used the new combo: do you have any thoughts?

 

[svtb15]

You guys are pretty smart.. I have to tell ya!
That works like a charm..
I have the amp racked right now but we are doing a few fly dates to CA at the end of May so i will pull the MG800 from the rack to bring with me. Using the MID control in that fashion can make the Normal tweeterless 810 work well.
I cant believe it took me so long to discover this..

Kirk, What your describing is one reason we increased rhe range of the Mid Frequency range to 3K. Boosting that range for your HF definition and leaving the HF control flar will give you that more classic tone vibe when not using cabs with tweeters.
Also works great with the BA12-3 design and a P-bass.

 

[kringle77]

That's why I always like to adjustable mids. One for a 150hz bump and one for the 3k bump. Then use the bass and treble to adjust for rooms and cabs. I used to love the eq on the genz shuttlemax. The Magellan sure is a great gig amp though.

 

[Ryan L.]

I think you are describing the 12-3.

BeBass is correct. Your description is exactly what players are getting from the BA12-3. The BA210-3 is a different animal to what you are describing.
I'm pretty confident you'd be in your sweet spot with the 12's along with your Magellan 800.

Thanks, guys!

Based on what I've read, and listening to video demos, I was pretty sure the 12-3 was the one for me. I just wanted to double check and make sure I was on the right track before making the move.

I thought about selling my 212T to help finance a pair of BA cabs, but dammit, that cab sounds so good, it needs to stay.