Been using Ampeg svt pro4 for decades and now pro7 with sansamp di but really trying to simplify and lighten up without losing volume and tone so I’m looking at ampeg venture V12 Vs Genzler kinetix 800 I play live n loud next to a way loud drummer and guitarist and yeah my hearing isnt the best from years of this. has anyone played both the kinetix and the venture I’m leaning towards Genzler kinetix since I have a the svt pros but kinda wonder if it will push 610 or 810 can easily and be big n loud enough to cut and destroy!
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Genzler Kinetix vs ampeg venture
- Thread starter Mighty
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My son plays in a loud rock band with two guitarists, both with Marshall half-stacks, and a hard-hitting drummer. The bass player uses a Genzler MG-350 into an Ampeg 610 cabinet with no PA/FOH support and it's very loud. The additional wattage and features of the Kinetix would serve you well.
I have been using Genz Benz and Genzler gear for years, and their quality and customer service are as good as it gets.
Both are good choices. My choice would be the Genzler Kinetix, it’s similar to the previous generation Genz Benz Streamliner which I’ve used for many years along with SVTs. Don’t worry about it handling the large cabinets, it will.
YES.
You won't quite get the "baked In" Ampeg sound, but you'll get a wide range of great tones, including thick tube saturation if desired.
AND a world-class reputation and service!
If you’re traveling the world as a musician I would go with AMPEG since they’re pretty much available everywhere.
If you’re in domestic USA I would go with GENZLER. Small reputable company with a great track record of quality gear.
The Kinetix is very versatile and will get you the volume levels you need.
If you’re in domestic USA I would go with GENZLER. Small reputable company with a great track record of quality gear.
The Kinetix is very versatile and will get you the volume levels you need.
This alone is honestly why I'd go Genzler. I got to have a phone call with the company CEO before making a purchase. Can't think of many companies that allow that.
If loud and SVTish type sound is main concern Ventura 12 should get it done
I would choose Genzler of those 2 because super loud and SVTish tone is not important for me
Also if looking for Big and Loud with big iron tube like balls from a great company at an excellent price
The new Mesa Subway BD 800 is worth consideration
I would choose Genzler of those 2 because super loud and SVTish tone is not important for me
Also if looking for Big and Loud with big iron tube like balls from a great company at an excellent price
The new Mesa Subway BD 800 is worth consideration
edwinhurwitz
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The Kinetix is small enough that you could bring it wherever you go. I wouldn’t hesitate to travel the world with it.
I'd take any Genzler over any Ampeg these days.
edwinhurwitz
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Exactly. Jeff Genzler is very accessible. Mr. Ampeg (Jess Oliver) passed away a long time ago.
Ampeg if you like questionable reliability and then having to try to get hold of someone who speaks English in order to get repairs done from a mom and pop shop who will throw in any spare parts laying around, the amp will never be the same, probably not a bad thing. Get the Kinetix if you want a great sounding reliable amp with much better resale value backed my Jeff himself if there were ever an unlikely issue. If you're looking at wattage between these 2 amps 1200 vs 800 you can throw that number out the window. Companies can make the numbers look any way they want just by shifting specs around to look impressive. Get a Bugera Veyron for example 2000 watts for just $309, wow I bet that blows the other 2 others amps you are considering out of the water for much less money, seems to be a no brainer!!!!
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The Kinetics 800 has a line voltage selector on the back panel. You can set it for 100-120VAC or 220-240VAC. Just use the right cord to plug into the socket. Works anywhere in the world. Built like a tank. Sounds like nirvana. Don't overthink this!
I didn't want to do this but after seeing so many of your posts referring to it as the Kinetics 800, I thought I'd finally correct you on it for any future posts, searches and confusion. It's actually called the Kinetix 800. No offense intended, just want to see it called by its correct named as Jeff and company named it. I know Jeff noticed it also, but he's way too nice to say anything.
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I didn't want to do this but after seeing so many of your posts referring to it as the Kinetics 800, I thought I'd finally correct you on it for any future posts, searches and confusion. It's actually called the Kinetix 800. No offense intended, just want to see it called by its correct named as Jeff and company named it. I know Jeff noticed it also, but he's way too nice to say anything.
My apologies for the spelling error. I have a hard time keeping up with the myriad of today's weirdly spelled brands. I love the amp even though I can't spell it. Fire me.
