hello all, i am a talkbass member for quite some time now but first time poster over this section as i have always been an electric bass player. you probably guessed by now the reason of this post. i am thinking of learning the upright bass and i am in the market for one. i have been reading for some time now what i should be looking for, if new, if used, if old, if laminated or carved, etc. i am somewhat confused as to what direction i should take. however, in the meantime, i have been searching for used uprights and i found one that might have caught my interest. the seller says the upright is german from 1880 and is selling it for 4500 euros. i have not checked it in person but apparently it is in good condition. i asked for any repairs, the seller said it obviously had repairs done but everything is fine. i will try to ask more questions but also remembered to ask a few over here. from the pictures, is this bass laminated, hybrid of carved? i still do not know how to recognise it? another question.. the seller says he does not know the maker of the upright. so he is selling an unknown instrument. what is better? buy an old (134 years) unknown upright or a new upright from a known maker? another thing that i remembered is how does he know its age but not the maker? how odd is this? i am not doubting the seller but i am arriving in a whole different instrument and maybe this is usual in the upright bass world? i would like to keep things on a budget though. 5000 euros only if it is an excellent deal for me. and i am already pushing it as it is a lot of money for an instrument i am going to start on. hope to get some opinions from you since you have way more experience than me. regards to all. here is the bass. almost forgot. what questions do you think i should do before buying? and where should i look when (if) i go check the upright in person? also, do you think 4500 euros is good? bad? fair?