Don't you just wish that you could sing like that.
Channeling big brother....
Channeling big brother....
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Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"
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Back in the late '60's she sang with Big Brother and the Holding Company upstairs at the Retinal Circus in Vancouver, B.C. Downstairs at the Elegant Parlour (CDN) my group was playing. Would have loved for her to come down and sang some of our soul music...didn't happen
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I have a colleague who is quite a bit little older than me who has a similar claim to fame. He worked on every type of electronic/instrumentation system, instrument and computer related to aviation during the last half of the 20th century right up through today. The man is an icon and can provide more authoritative knowledge off the top of his head than even the most exhaustive internet search. People like that are so rare these days and one the biggest things I like about my job is getting to work with folks like him. OBTW, he's just as relevant on today's cutting edge technology and systems as he was on the old stuff back in the day - it's simply humbling to be around people like that.
Back in the late '60's she sang with Big Brother and the Holding Company upstairs at the Retinal Circus in Vancouver, B.C. Downstairs at the Elegant Parlour (CDN) my group was playing. Would have loved for her to come down and sang some of our soul music...didn't happen
How cool would that have been.
I'm sure my dad would have been good with all the newer stuff but he retired and the shop lost its biggest contract due to airline mergers. AFAIK, the company is now a subsidiary of KLM and others.
Especially humbling since I pay someone to change the oil in our cars.
As I reflected on my memories, I think you are right about RAWS. We had RAWS gripes, so it was alive and well. I was thinking of OBST, which was lost with the hump. In the hump, I think there there might have been some kind of rear attack detection of some type too. Why would the skeet for the fleet need that, since we were supposed to get shot at?
Me,too. For what it costs me to do it, And find a place to dispose(legally)of the used oil, I'm better off having it done, esp. since they check a bunch of other stuff.Especially humbling since I pay someone to change the oil in our cars.
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Well just because you're a deliberate target doesn't mean we want you to get shot down...ask the Wild Weasel or Iron Hand guys. Wasn't it the AN/APG-53 radar display that had an OBST warning if your were in TC mode?
Ours was all stripped out and stored in the Ordy's shed across the flight deck. Rusting away with the 50 cal's and the RAT's for our ALQ's to go full active mode, just in case we were to need to defend the Philippines (our official mission, by base agreement).
The F-35's DAS (Distributed Aperture System) gives the pilot 360 degree situational awareness. It also searches for targets and hostile missiles, etc. and sends that information to the pilot's helmet. The newest form of dogfight is beyond Vietnam or even the Gulf War. The ideal is NO dogfight, to down the enemy before he can even see you from miles away.
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I'm very familiar with the F-35 and it does in fact have some pretty incredible (and incredibly expensive) technologies. Unfortunately many of our longer range Air to Air weapon systems (like the Phoenix AIM-54 and F-14's AWG-9 radar) have been forgotten, but were quite remarkable for their time. With the F-35 systems and pilot helmet the situational awareness capability provides an important tactical advantage, especially in terms of information availability in the fastest time possible.
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Pretty incredible stuff, but... Even in GW1, F-18's were taking out targets (air to air as well as ground targets) before the targets knew the US was in the sky. No visual on either end.
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I recall in the daily morning intelligence/status briefings during GW1 seeing the first AA/AG cockpit footage on the F/A-18 (a program I had worked during the very first deployments of that AC). The guys had fighter escort right up to the point that they were on their own for target area ingress. Suddenly there were enemy fighter aircraft inbound to their position. They switched to AA, took out the bad guys, switched to AG mode, delivered their ordinance and the video showed a total shack on all primary the targets. For those of us who had worked on the Hornet program, it almost brought a tear to our eye.
Is this where I get to talk about why I liked my M-14 over the M16? 
M14 Rifle Technical Specifications
Caliber: 7.62 x 51 mm NATO Standard (.30 caliber)
Weight: 10.1 lbs. loaded
Overall length: 44.3 in.
Feed: 20 round detachable box magazine
Operation: Gas piston
Cyclic rate: 750 rpm
Muzzle velocity: 2800 fps
Maximum range: 3725 meters
Effective range: 460 meters
M16A1 Rifle Technical Specifications
Caliber: 5.56 x 45mm (.223 caliber)
Weight: 7.6 lbs. loaded
Overall length: 39 in.
Feed: 20 round detachable box magazine
Operation: Direct gas
Cyclic rate: 750 rpm
Muzzle velocity: 3250 fps
Maximum range: 2653 meters
Effective range: 460 meters
Caliber: 7.62 x 51 mm NATO Standard (.30 caliber)
Weight: 10.1 lbs. loaded
Overall length: 44.3 in.
Feed: 20 round detachable box magazine
Operation: Gas piston
Cyclic rate: 750 rpm
Muzzle velocity: 2800 fps
Maximum range: 3725 meters
Effective range: 460 meters
M16A1 Rifle Technical Specifications
Caliber: 5.56 x 45mm (.223 caliber)
Weight: 7.6 lbs. loaded
Overall length: 39 in.
Feed: 20 round detachable box magazine
Operation: Direct gas
Cyclic rate: 750 rpm
Muzzle velocity: 3250 fps
Maximum range: 2653 meters
Effective range: 460 meters
Effective range: 460 meters
And yet, on the qualification range at Pendleton in '67, our last stage was 500 meters.
And yet, on the qualification range at Pendleton in '67, our last stage was 500 meters.
"The effective range of a particular firearm and cartridge, also known as the maximum effective range, is an average of how far the bullet will travel before it hits the dirt and the actual practical range it can be used at to engage a target."
They need to have a standardized way of measuring things. How useful a term is in the real world is something else. Standards and measurement tools have evolved over the years and there's a better handle on it today.
The average seems to be open to some interpretation as to usefulness. There's the effective engagement distance and simply reaching or tagging a target under ideal conditions, and the distance between the two. Effective engagement can be interpreted in different ways, especially in the field.
They need to have a standardized way of measuring things. How useful a term is in the real world is something else. Standards and measurement tools have evolved over the years and there's a better handle on it today.
The average seems to be open to some interpretation as to usefulness. There's the effective engagement distance and simply reaching or tagging a target under ideal conditions, and the distance between the two. Effective engagement can be interpreted in different ways, especially in the field.
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