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Getting a new Amp for home, small gigs and recording

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by GDalbosco, Apr 12, 2018.


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  1. Apr 12, 2018 #1
    GDalbosco

    GDalbosco

    Feb 18, 2017
    Chile
    I was looking for an amp for home practice, small gigs and recording with an audio interface.

    First I looked to Ampeg Micro VR Head (200watts RMS @ 4 ohms) and the SVT210AV CABINET (200watts RMS @ 8 ohms)
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    But now someone offer me an Ashdown ABM 600 RC EVO IV (600watts RMS, minimun @ 4 ohms) with a very similar price than micro vr head.
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    These are the outputs:
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    First I am looking for an amp only for home practice and recording, but the price is very attractive for the ABM 600.

    Now I am confusing.

    What do you recommend?

    If I go for the ABM 600, I need a big cab or can be a smaller one, like like Ashdown ABM-115H (300watts @ 8 ohms)? or the VT210AV CABINET (200watts RMS @ 8 ohms)?
    Can I connect only the head to the audio interface or must be connected to speakers?

    I don't know to much about power and ohms rules, I don't want to damage something.
     

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  5. Apr 12, 2018 #2
    Stumbo

    Stumbo Guest

    Feb 11, 2008
    You can use any size cab. Just keep the volume down.

    You can Use the DI out or effects send for recording, depending on interface.
     
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  9. Apr 12, 2018 #3
    GDalbosco

    GDalbosco

    Feb 18, 2017
    Chile
    I use a focusrite 2i4.

    tks.
     
    Last edited: Apr 12, 2018
  13. Apr 12, 2018 #4
    Old Garage-Bander

    Old Garage-Bander

    Jan 31, 2015
    Western Hemisphere
    Find the Ashdown web site and see if you can download a manual for this amp.
    Most manufacturers are pretty good about giving examples of cabinet impedance (Ohms) combinations you can use with each amp.

    And as said before, it's OK to use a smaller (power rated) cab as long as you don't turn up too much.
    Listen for strange noises that shouldn't be there. We often describe it as the speaker is "farting out."
    So that's kind of the sound. If you hear that, you need to back off with the volume.
     
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  18. Apr 12, 2018 #5
    12BitSlab

    12BitSlab Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 28, 2016
    Liberty Township
    I have 2 of the Micro-VR/SVT210AV stacks each with 2 cabs. They work and sound great.

    When recording, if you are going to mic a cab, be aware that the Micro-VR head has a loud fan.

    For what you want to do, a PF-350 with 1 or 2 210AV cabs would be nearly perfect.
     
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  22. Apr 12, 2018 #6
    GDalbosco

    GDalbosco

    Feb 18, 2017
    Chile
    Tks great advices.

    Also, about heads, Can I use only the DI output to a PA or an audio interface without using the speakers output? Or this can damage the head?
     
  26. Apr 13, 2018 #7
    Stumbo

    Stumbo Guest

    Feb 11, 2008
    Keeping the 100hz down and the sub-harmonic feature off will also reduce chances of damaging a small cab.

    More info: ABM-600-EVO IV Head
     
    Last edited: Apr 13, 2018
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  30. Apr 13, 2018 #8
    fcleff

    fcleff

    Apr 22, 2005
    Austin, Texas
    I have an Ashdown Mag 300 and have used the DI only (no speaker) into my interface with no problems.
    f
     
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  34. Apr 13, 2018 #9
    tjh

    tjh

    Mar 22, 2006
    Minnesota
    ... I was not impressed by the DI built into the PF-350, I returned a new unit because of it ... just something to be aware of and try for yourself if this is important to your recording with it ... the one I had may have had an issue, I never tried a second to find out ...
     
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  38. Apr 13, 2018 #10
    BassikBrad

    BassikBrad Bass Face Brad Supporting Member

    Mar 28, 2018
    Las Vegas. New Mexico
    If the price is good , go for it, Ashdown has a nice character to its sound.
     
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  42. Apr 13, 2018 #11
    JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    Sure you can. The only ones you need to worry about are heads with tube power sections. But stuff like the Micro VR and Ashdown head you're looking at? Sure.
     
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  47. Apr 14, 2018 #12
    GDalbosco

    GDalbosco

    Feb 18, 2017
    Chile
    I got the ashdown! price was really good. Tks all for your help.
     
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  51. Apr 14, 2018 #13
    zon6c-f

    zon6c-f

    Jun 9, 2007
    Metro Atlanta, Ga.
    May I suggest Bergantino forte’ with HDN 1-12?

    Small but mighty and DI out for studio use. Hi Fi tone / transparent -clarity

    Ultra light powerhouse rig
     
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  55. Jun 3, 2018 #14
    Dasgre0g

    Dasgre0g DasGre0g Supporting Member

    Nov 13, 2007
    Morehead City, North Carolina :(
    Excellent choice. Awesome thing about that amplifier is it really puts out massive professional sounding power if you need it, but it does not weigh a ridiculous amount. So you were always capable of using it up smaller situations.
     
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  59. Jun 3, 2018 #15
    Blaze Barlow

    Blaze Barlow

    Mar 8, 2018
    Nashville
    I would go for the Ampeg B15..great for at home..live..the best there is for recording..and no fan for added noise..
     
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  63. Jun 4, 2018 #16
    GDalbosco

    GDalbosco

    Feb 18, 2017
    Chile
    I like ampeg a lot. I was looking for a made in usa here, but the one that I saw was sold very fast.

    Now I am very happy with ashdown ABM amp and ABM cabs. Great sound, and versatile for different styles, but specially very good for different rock styles.
    The fan noise IMO is something you get used to, and the level is not too much too bother you while you play. For me is almost imperceptible.
     
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