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Getting back into it... Berg NV610

#42
GregC said:
:D I haven't made it there yet, but I will (I have relatives in Oviedo). Forewarned is forearmed...
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well don't get me wrong...it's a great place with great people working there, and beaver and dave have been my pals for well over 15 years, but they do get mad if you play beyond a whisper while anyone's on the phone.
 
#43
Mark Reccord said:
I have done the direct comparison between an old squareback in great condition, an SLM 810e and my NV610 all driven by my '76 SVT. We came to the conclusion that the NV and the squareback were essentially sonically identical with the only difference being that the NV dealt with a B-string a bit more gracefully at stupid volume. Both cabs sounded a lot better than the 810e. Like unbelievably better. The NV wins for me because it's smaller, lighter and easier to move around. Though I'm finding that a bit tough these days with a screwed up back.

Haven't tried a Heritage yet, but for it to come close to either of the other cabs, they would have had to vastly improve it with respect to their other recent 810 cabs.
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I was going to say that I was a long-time flatback user who now prefers the NV610, but Mark's direct A/B makes his testimony far more valuable than mine.
 
#44
Mark Reccord said:
I have done the direct comparison between an old squareback in great condition, an SLM 810e and my NV610 all driven by my '76 SVT. We came to the conclusion that the NV and the squareback were essentially sonically identical with the only difference being that the NV dealt with a B-string a bit more gracefully at stupid volume. Both cabs sounded a lot better than the 810e. Like unbelievably better. The NV wins for me because it's smaller, lighter and easier to move around. Though I'm finding that a bit tough these days with a screwed up back.

Haven't tried a Heritage yet, but for it to come close to either of the other cabs, they would have had to vastly improve it with respect to their other recent 810 cabs.

I'm going to be in Florida in May, but I don't think they'll let me carry the NV610 onto the plane. :D
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I own both and pretty much agree with you.

My NV is realistically sized to roll into a quick 1 set gig at a small venue and still loud enough to cover most any room/situation I'll ever play. I keep my flatback 810 around as a cool collectible but always end up preferring my NV for gigs or rehearsals.

I was fortunate enough to buy my brand new NV610 for $699 when the Bass Place in Scottsdale closed out they're entire Berg inventory and sold them all off at dealer cost back in 2006 or so.

The NV610 really is an amazing cab, its not just hype.


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#46
amos said:
Every NV610 posts seems to end up as a Ampeg 810 vs. NV610 debate, but nonetheless I appreciate the responses, happy to hear I can find a used one for $800. Am really stoked to get my hands on one of these. Off to the effects forum.
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While you're at the effects forum - check out the VT pedal, it sounds nearly identical to an Ampeg SVT amp.....:eek:Oops... did I just start another point/counterpoint discussion?
 
#47
GBassNorth said:
While you're at the effects forum - check out the VT pedal, it sounds nearly identical to an Ampeg SVT amp.....:eek:Oops... did I just start another point/counterpoint discussion?
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no, you didn't. i love the vt but i don't think anyone's going to argue against the svt in favor of the vt except on a weight basis. except maybe seamonkey ;)
 
#52
Just to reiterate my buried point, if you are going to be doing a lot of subsonic or really high frequency synth stuff you might want to look at another cab with better frequency response. I have run my minimoog through the nv610 and it works well but ultra high and low stuff definitely gets rolled off. Good luck!
 
#54
Its definitely way more demanding. At least with my minimoog it can go to the very ends of human hearing and beyond. Add a resonant filter and look out! Full range for synth is definitely the way to go.
 
#56
Greenboy, metro - thanks for the synth input

What kind of cabinet setup would you recommend for a synth? The only reason why I wanted to run both the bass and the synth through the same cabinet is so I could run both the synth and the bass through my pedal board.
 
#57
Really, it just depends on how hard you are hammering things and what you expect. I used to use a Fender Twin as part of my synth rig, but that wasn't for bass parts and the Twin's bass knob was rolled all the way off to protect it. The other part of my rig was a small PA subwoofer and even so it took a fair beating when I did resonant bass patches.

fEARfuls are pretty nifty for this kind of stuff.
 
#60
I've read countless posts and would really, really love to try out an NV610... (no dealers in SE Michigan), but when it all comes to it, my Ampeg 810 was $300... not $600-700+ for a used/new nv610.

I think I'll deal with the size and 'subpar' sound of my Ampeg 810 and keep my $400 in change :)
 

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